General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoly Shit - the Con can't sign the tax bill until January
because it will cut MEDICAD immediately. They rushed this fucking scam in such a hurry and it is riddled with errors.
These goons should all be in prison. Well done Lyin Ryan and turtle.
Oh - heard Rachel on this
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)Damn this is fall down funny
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)dflprincess
(28,078 posts)"If the President takes no action at all, and ten days passes (not including Sundays), the bill becomes law without the President's signature. However, if the Congress has adjourned before the ten days passes and without a Presidential signature, the bill fails. This is known as a pocket veto."
If Sundays don't count and today is counted as day 1, then the 10 days end on December 30. If tomorrow is counted as Day 1 that means the 10 day period ends January 1. And Congress may soon go into a recess, but it will not be going into adjournment so that doesn't apply.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)Der Hauptdrumpfubergropenfuhrer should have to choose between the pain being felt immediately (and electoral consequences in 2018) or the entire Bill failing. Piss-poor legislation from a piss-poor Congress to impoverish us all.
-app
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)If he doesn't sign it and Congress hasn't adjourned (it won't) it becomes law on December 30th.
No mention of this Constitutional reality in the article. WTF?!?
-app
pangaia
(24,324 posts)dflprincess
(28,078 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)😮
C Moon
(12,213 posts)They've been making a mockery of it since Trump was placed in office.
Matthew28
(1,798 posts)I hate these unhuman bastards
spanone
(135,832 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)spanone
(135,832 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)They must pay for this mess
spanone
(135,832 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Have a nice holiday season
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)Haste makes waste, alright.
I wonder how many other glaring errors will be turned up to complicate their plans even further? How long a delay might it be before monster signs that tax abomination?
malaise
(268,998 posts)Power, wealth and guns
Norbert10
(61 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Not us, but him. We're still completely fucked.
https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec7.html
Forget the "pocket veto" thing. The 115th Congress ends on January 3, 2019.
If Congress hasn't adjourned, any bill not signed and not vetoed becomes law 10 days, not counting Sundays, after it is "transmitted" to the White House. (In this case, "transmission" means they stick the rancid pile of shit in a wheelbarrow and walk it down Constitution Avenue, accompanied by a brigade of the Park Police, a Stryker battalion from the National Guard, an Army Chemical Warfare Battalion and an atheist chaplain.) There are two Sundays in there, so...if the bill is transmitted on December 21, it becomes law without his signature on New Year's Day. If it was transmitted today, Trump needs to veto it quick and have them ram it back through Congress.
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)turbinetree
(24,701 posts)and I am one of those recipient of Medicare,I have a heart condition that has tried to kill me
http://www.ncpssm.org/Medicare/MedicareFastFacts
And I am pissed off......................and my money, my treasury bonds are going to go to asshole sitting in some wall street office who is going to charge me a fee to have Medicare-----------------------because of Paul Ayn Rand Ryan.................and I am pissed off
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)The future???
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)There are more of us than them here let me show you
http://www.ncpssm.org/Medicare/MedicareFastFacts
I can go down with an sign and I will get my bull horn with a permit---------------you keep this asshole awake
WE are coming Assholes....................the senior are waking up......................you have ten days to sign asshole......................and the clock started today ................................lets see if he can count
malaise
(268,998 posts)Damn!
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)See: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/why-trump-wont-be-signing-his-tax-cuts-right-away/548906/
It is still a little confusing, but it gives the Dems some nice leverage.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)Downright embarrassing. Greedy no good amateurs. National embarrassments.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)I shouldn't regret badgering him for six months to have a plan for losing Medicare, but of course I do. Pretty much as soon as he started to come around, he stroked out before we could even start on a plan. He racked up at least a hundred grand in bills as a poop-throwing zombie before finally passing away. Medicare covered the vast majority of it.
Often, I think about the timing of that event and I wonder if my father decided to die rather than admit that his beloved Republicans were bent on killing him. If he did, then you can multiply this story by a million and that's where we'll be this time next year.
malaise
(268,998 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)Please know that I wouldn't just toss up this observation for sympathy. I'm telling it so that others might be able to head of similar events in their own families.
The human mind may just be powerful enough to destroy itself if some monstrous truth looms within it. That's honestly something I've never considered before, and I don't particularly want to believe it. But the entire world is made up of shit I don't want to believe, which nevertheless is.