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malaise

(268,998 posts)
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 10:42 PM Dec 2017

Holy Shit - the Con can't sign the tax bill until January

because it will cut MEDICAD immediately. They rushed this fucking scam in such a hurry and it is riddled with errors.
These goons should all be in prison. Well done Lyin Ryan and turtle.

Oh - heard Rachel on this

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Holy Shit - the Con can't sign the tax bill until January (Original Post) malaise Dec 2017 OP
? Link ? Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #1
Rachel malaise Dec 2017 #2
Thx Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #4
I thought she said Medicare?? RandomAccess Dec 2017 #18
You could be right - I'll check the video later n/t malaise Dec 2017 #46
The constitution says he has 10 days MattP Dec 2017 #3
Here's a little more detail dflprincess Dec 2017 #17
Today should count as Day 1 passing. appal_jack Dec 2017 #19
That's how I'd count the days. dflprincess Dec 2017 #20
? appal_jack Dec 2017 #42
Didn't you forget Dec 31? pangaia Dec 2017 #22
Dec 31 is a Sunday this year dflprincess Dec 2017 #25
Oopps. pangaia Dec 2017 #28
What the hell does Trump and the GOP care about our constitution. C Moon Dec 2017 #26
This defacto7 Dec 2017 #32
Pure freaking evil Matthew28 Dec 2017 #5
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #6
The confusion will be breath-taking malaise Dec 2017 #9
this is the Twilight Zone spanone Dec 2017 #11
Perfect malaise Dec 2017 #12
i just shake my head. i fear we all will. spanone Dec 2017 #13
One of Tweety's guests suggested the possibility of him signing it at Mar-A-Lago! bullwinkle428 Dec 2017 #7
that would be a disgrace Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #14
There's a lot of that going around these days. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #15
more than a lot.........one could say most Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #16
Bet he does. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #29
Lawrence will have a freaking field day with this! Talk about must-see viewing! bullwinkle428 Dec 2017 #8
Can't wait malaise Dec 2017 #10
Nancy Pelosi would not have made that mistake. calimary Dec 2017 #21
Only three things matter malaise Dec 2017 #39
Gee. Far cry from having a CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR as president. nt Norbert10 Dec 2017 #23
If the bill hasn't been transmitted to the White House yet, he's still okay jmowreader Dec 2017 #24
The sexual predators death panel piece of legislation signing also known as the Tax Bill (Medicare) turbinetree Dec 2017 #27
Its the Enabling Act, as todays embarrassing display revealed Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #30
Below is the number of human beings on Jan 1 or Jan 3rd are going to be fucked turbinetree Dec 2017 #31
Ill be joining you soon, & it scares the holy hell out of me Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #35
Hey dude we got them by the balls , its amazing what you can do with a pliers turbinetree Dec 2017 #37
Scary malaise Dec 2017 #40
Good explanation at The Atlantic Stonepounder Dec 2017 #33
what a bunch of dumb fucks gopiscrap Dec 2017 #34
NEVER would have happened Pelosi/Reid/Obama ALBliberal Dec 2017 #36
I think this already killed my father. sofa king Dec 2017 #38
That is both sad and profound malaise Dec 2017 #41
Thank you. sofa king Dec 2017 #43
I know malaise Dec 2017 #44
This is a poorly drafted piece of shit bill Gothmog Dec 2017 #45

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
17. Here's a little more detail
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:25 PM
Dec 2017
https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_law.html

"If the President takes no action at all, and ten days passes (not including Sundays), the bill becomes law without the President's signature. However, if the Congress has adjourned before the ten days passes and without a Presidential signature, the bill fails. This is known as a pocket veto."

If Sundays don't count and today is counted as day 1, then the 10 days end on December 30. If tomorrow is counted as Day 1 that means the 10 day period ends January 1. And Congress may soon go into a recess, but it will not be going into adjournment so that doesn't apply.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
19. Today should count as Day 1 passing.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:34 PM
Dec 2017

Der Hauptdrumpfubergropenfuhrer should have to choose between the pain being felt immediately (and electoral consequences in 2018) or the entire Bill failing. Piss-poor legislation from a piss-poor Congress to impoverish us all.

-app

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
20. That's how I'd count the days.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:37 PM
Dec 2017

If he doesn't sign it and Congress hasn't adjourned (it won't) it becomes law on December 30th.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
26. What the hell does Trump and the GOP care about our constitution.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:42 AM
Dec 2017

They've been making a mockery of it since Trump was placed in office.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
21. Nancy Pelosi would not have made that mistake.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:58 PM
Dec 2017

Haste makes waste, alright.

I wonder how many other glaring errors will be turned up to complicate their plans even further? How long a delay might it be before monster signs that tax abomination?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
24. If the bill hasn't been transmitted to the White House yet, he's still okay
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:11 AM
Dec 2017

Not us, but him. We're still completely fucked.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec7.html

Forget the "pocket veto" thing. The 115th Congress ends on January 3, 2019.

If Congress hasn't adjourned, any bill not signed and not vetoed becomes law 10 days, not counting Sundays, after it is "transmitted" to the White House. (In this case, "transmission" means they stick the rancid pile of shit in a wheelbarrow and walk it down Constitution Avenue, accompanied by a brigade of the Park Police, a Stryker battalion from the National Guard, an Army Chemical Warfare Battalion and an atheist chaplain.) There are two Sundays in there, so...if the bill is transmitted on December 21, it becomes law without his signature on New Year's Day. If it was transmitted today, Trump needs to veto it quick and have them ram it back through Congress.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
31. Below is the number of human beings on Jan 1 or Jan 3rd are going to be fucked
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:07 AM
Dec 2017

and I am one of those recipient of Medicare,I have a heart condition that has tried to kill me


http://www.ncpssm.org/Medicare/MedicareFastFacts


And I am pissed off......................and my money, my treasury bonds are going to go to asshole sitting in some wall street office who is going to charge me a fee to have Medicare-----------------------because of Paul Ayn Rand Ryan.................and I am pissed off

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
37. Hey dude we got them by the balls , its amazing what you can do with a pliers
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:33 AM
Dec 2017

There are more of us than them here let me show you

http://www.ncpssm.org/Medicare/MedicareFastFacts

I can go down with an sign and I will get my bull horn with a permit---------------you keep this asshole awake



WE are coming Assholes....................the senior are waking up......................you have ten days to sign asshole......................and the clock started today ................................lets see if he can count




ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
36. NEVER would have happened Pelosi/Reid/Obama
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:25 AM
Dec 2017

Downright embarrassing. Greedy no good amateurs. National embarrassments.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
38. I think this already killed my father.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 02:11 AM
Dec 2017

I shouldn't regret badgering him for six months to have a plan for losing Medicare, but of course I do. Pretty much as soon as he started to come around, he stroked out before we could even start on a plan. He racked up at least a hundred grand in bills as a poop-throwing zombie before finally passing away. Medicare covered the vast majority of it.

Often, I think about the timing of that event and I wonder if my father decided to die rather than admit that his beloved Republicans were bent on killing him. If he did, then you can multiply this story by a million and that's where we'll be this time next year.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
43. Thank you.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 02:16 PM
Dec 2017

Please know that I wouldn't just toss up this observation for sympathy. I'm telling it so that others might be able to head of similar events in their own families.

The human mind may just be powerful enough to destroy itself if some monstrous truth looms within it. That's honestly something I've never considered before, and I don't particularly want to believe it. But the entire world is made up of shit I don't want to believe, which nevertheless is.

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