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usedtobedemgurl

(1,139 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 08:09 AM Dec 2017

I Do Not Understand Why They Do Not Have To Vote On The Tax Bill Again....

Last night Rachel said dotard will not sign the bill until the new year because they have to fix several things due to the bill being rushed through and not done correctly. If they have to fix things, in the bill, doesn't that make it a new bill, not what they voted on, and shouldn't they have to vote on it all over again? I mean, while they are 'fixing' it, they could end up putting more things in, right? They could slip anything they want into the bill. In my opinion, if you need to fix it because Medicare would go away immediately and our paychecks would instantly have bad consequences the next time we get paid, then what else is in there? Those are pretty bad things. They need a redo and vote on it again.

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I Do Not Understand Why They Do Not Have To Vote On The Tax Bill Again.... (Original Post) usedtobedemgurl Dec 2017 OP
They did... brooklynite Dec 2017 #1
If he signs it in 2017 the automatic cuts kick in for 2018... JHB Dec 2017 #2
And they want Democrats help pass to HappyBeing Dec 2017 #3
So you support tossing little old ladies off a cliff Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #5
So who is the fiscally responsible party again? MGKrebs Dec 2017 #4
aaaand to spread the bullshit lie of.... Javaman Dec 2017 #6

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
1. They did...
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 08:24 AM
Dec 2017

The House voted on the Conference version of the Bill.

The Senate disallowed certain provisions and voted for the modified version of the Bill

The House voted on the modified version of the Bill.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
2. If he signs it in 2017 the automatic cuts kick in for 2018...
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 08:26 AM
Dec 2017

...per a 2010 "pay as you go" law. But if he waits and signs it in 2018, they won't kick in until 2019, giving them a year to pass additional legislation to do the "fixing".

Those "fixes" will be in new, different bills, not the Lord of the Flies monstrosity that Republicans recently passed.

edited to add link to an article on this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/why-trump-wont-be-signing-his-tax-cuts-right-away/548906/

HappyBeing

(39 posts)
3. And they want Democrats help pass to
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 08:49 AM
Dec 2017

a ‘Pay-Go’ waiver.


NO to ‘Pay-Go’ waiver. Absolutely not.

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
5. So you support tossing little old ladies off a cliff
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:21 AM
Dec 2017

A la the Medicare ad, for the purpose of scoring political points?

Without pay-go waivers there will be huge automatic cuts to programs that people need to live. Do not play political gamesmanship with people's lives.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
4. So who is the fiscally responsible party again?
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:08 AM
Dec 2017

Dems passed Paygo. Repubs keep wanting to spend without paying for it- exact opposite of who they say they are.

"The Act was introduced in the House of Representatives on June 17, 2009, by Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Maryland) and has been cosponsored by 169 of the 257 House Democrats.

...A majority of 241 Democrats supported the bill while a majority of 153 Republicans opposed it.

In the Senate, the amendment attaching pay-as-you-go language to the debt limit increase passed on a party-line vote of 60-40, and the debt limit bill subsequently passed 60-39.

After the House passed the bill by a vote of 233-187 on February 4, 2010, the bill was sent to Obama's desk. He signed it into law on February 12, 2010."

wikipedia

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
6. aaaand to spread the bullshit lie of....
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:52 AM
Dec 2017

"look! nothing bad happened!" in a few months to the mouth breathers who think it goes into effect in 2018.

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