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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 09:32 AM Dec 2017

The Real Coup Plot Is Trump's

By YASCHA MOUNKDEC. 20, 2017

When Donald Trump’s campaign was accused of spreading “fake news,” he quickly appropriated the term for himself. The true purveyors of fake news, he claimed, were television networks like CNN and newspapers like this one.

Now, as Mr. Trump and his allies seem on the verge of staging a coup against independent institutions and the rule of law — maligning the special counsel Robert Mueller and threatening a purge at the F.B.I. — the president’s supporters are appropriating yet another word for themselves. Mr. Mueller’s investigation aims to “destroy” the Trump presidency “for partisan political purposes and to disenfranchise millions of American voters,” the Fox News host Jesse Watters claimed on Saturday. “We have a coup on our hands in America.”

This marks a new era in American politics. The Republican Party is no longer just obfuscating the truth or defending the president when he is accused of wrongdoing. Rather, Mr. Trump, Fox News and Republicans in Congress seem to be actively using falsehoods to prepare an assault on the institutions that allow American democracy to function.

In all democracies, politicians occasionally lie to cover up scandals or exaggerate their legislative accomplishments. In the United States, the rise of the right-wing news media in recent decades has tempted politicians to play to their own supporters without worrying whether their rhetoric is inflammatory or fair. But the construction of an alternate reality that obviates the very possibility of conducting politics on the basis of truth is a novelty in this country. And it is increasingly becoming obvious that it will serve a clear purpose: to prepare the ground for egregious violations of basic democratic norms.

Once any string of words is considered as true as any other, any course of action comes to seem as legitimate as any other. One moment, Mr. Mueller is a respected civil servant leading an important investigation at the behest of the Justice Department. The next, he is plotting a coup — potentially committing treason, a felony for which the law demands the death penalty. By the same token, Mr. Trump would, at one moment, be scandalously overstepping the bounds of his rightful authority in firing Mr. Mueller or pardoning his closest associates. The next moment, he would be valiantly defending the Republic.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/20/opinion/trump-republican-coup.html

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The Real Coup Plot Is Trump's (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #1
K&R dewsgirl Dec 2017 #2
Daily, we are turning more and more into Nazi Germany. lark Dec 2017 #3
K&R G_j Dec 2017 #4
Anyone who thinks Repugs will not allow a fascist state are in denial. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #5
'Allow' a fascist state? They insist upon it! FiveGoodMen Dec 2017 #19
This is the turn of events genxlib Dec 2017 #6
K&R Moostache Dec 2017 #7
I believe it was Khrushchev... jimmil Dec 2017 #8
I think I'm going to buy Madam Mossfern Dec 2017 #9
I have been making pins, bumper stickers and earrings BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #15
K&R. dchill Dec 2017 #10
K&R 2naSalit Dec 2017 #11
I thought it was a coup well more than a year ago. pangaia Dec 2017 #12
Trump's Coup? William Postsalot Dec 2017 #13
Exactly! Well said nm AmericanActivist Dec 2017 #20
+1000 Pachamama Dec 2017 #26
K&R 2naSalit Dec 2017 #14
K&R EricMaundry Dec 2017 #16
If you want to know what Trump and the republicans are up to, GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #17
They fail to see the Plutocrat end game. The path to stealing everything is breaking up the USA. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #18
Putin's plan bdamomma Dec 2017 #25
The country zentrum Dec 2017 #21
the sxs have worsened... tomp Dec 2017 #30
That's true. zentrum Dec 2017 #31
We Are In A Crisis To Be Sure colsohlibgal Dec 2017 #22
It's a combo of the movie Groundhog Day and an episode of The Twilight Zone. sarcasmo Dec 2017 #23
K&R bdamomma Dec 2017 #24
This is a guy who sleeps with a copy of Mein Kampf C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #27
Ya think! Cha Dec 2017 #28
The plug should be pulled on FOX Noise. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #29

lark

(23,099 posts)
3. Daily, we are turning more and more into Nazi Germany.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:19 AM
Dec 2017

Yes, it's tiny steps now, but so was it with Hitler. drumpf is following Hitlers' playbook and Putin's orders to destroy American democracy and ideals and set in concrete the rule of the olligarchs and the demise of the middle class. The ranks of the poor will skyrocket while Putin and drumpf personal profits mount to the moon.

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
5. Anyone who thinks Repugs will not allow a fascist state are in denial.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:22 AM
Dec 2017

The committee that Devin Nunes is leading, made up of only repukes, are planning to issue a report-I mean a smear and propaganda piece of fiction, that they think will legitimize what happens next. Call out Nunes and the others for what they are doing. Don't let those cockroaches hide in the dark.

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
6. This is the turn of events
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:24 AM
Dec 2017

that has turned by blood cold over the last few months.

It is no longer a willingness to defend a temporary occupant of the White House that is the problem.

They are willing to undermine the core of our democracy to do it.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. K&R
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:25 AM
Dec 2017

The resistance to this abomination of a POTUS and the current Congress must be complete. These sons of bitches are the absolute scum of humanity and every single one of them needs to go...

jimmil

(629 posts)
8. I believe it was Khrushchev...
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

Who said we will hang America with their own rope. I was unaware Khrushchev could predict the future.

I'm just glad I will not live long enough to see the U.S. fall into ugly revolution but I have thought for many years it will come someday. Now I can plainly see it will come in the not too distant future. I do fear for my grandchildren however. What kind of world will they inherit?

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
9. I think I'm going to buy
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:49 AM
Dec 2017

a bunch of "Resist" lawn signs and give them out to as many people I can. I hope this will mushroom and soon those who see what's happening throughout the Country will have a visual reminder of what we need to do.

I'll also get a bunch of "Resist" car magnets too.

No yelling, no screaming - just resistance.
I'm already politically active, and friends of mine who were always kind of complacent are becoming more active too.
We have a chance to flip NJ 11th Congressional district - and we're going to do it.

I thought that maybe I was a bit too old for this, but dammit - it's scary!

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
15. I have been making pins, bumper stickers and earrings
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:01 PM
Dec 2017

and spreading the word RESIST! The grass roots efforts are needed now more than ever.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
17. If you want to know what Trump and the republicans are up to,
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:16 PM
Dec 2017

just look at what they're accusing others of doing. I cannot believe that most people still have not figured that out.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
22. We Are In A Crisis To Be Sure
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:36 AM
Dec 2017

I never thought it could get this bad with the potential to get even worse. As a young gal during Watergate I never felt as apprehensive as I do now. Back then enough republicans put country over party. And Nixon, as crooked as he was, was way more competent that the idiot in office now.

It is like a bad dream that never ends, having a creepy evil reality show grifter in the White House.

And again, this is only happening because of the Electoral College. If we ever get enough control back we need to deep six that College.

May this nightmare end ASAP....when it is a bridge way too far for a Bill Kristol...it is super bad.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
29. The plug should be pulled on FOX Noise.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:25 AM
Dec 2017

Someone, somehow, has to pull the plug on FOX. They are nothing but TRUMP TV right now, spreading his vicious propaganda, his outrageous lies, and acting as the official White House 'fluffer' for der Orange GropenFuhrer. They make absolutely no pretense of being a legitimate news source anymore. Total propaganda for Republicans and their message of lies, deceit and their fascist coup against the United States of America.

These AssClowns actually believe the country is theirs to do with whatever they wish. They've completely cut the Democrats out of any and all decision making processes. Apparently they think this situation is perpetual, and they'll never have to answer to the voters. Maybe they know something we don't, but as far as I can see, in November of 2018....THEY'RE FUCKED! I can't wait to see the looks on their stupid, greedy faces when they lose both the House and Senate. PAYBACK TIME!

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