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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:41 AM Dec 2017

Putin's Man in the White House? Real Trump Russia Scandal Is Not Mere Collusion, US Counterspies Say

Full article posted with the permission of Newsweek - Don

BY JEFF STEIN ON 12/21/17 AT 10:16 AM

Last May, a top White House national security official met in Washington with senior Russian officials and handed over details of a secret operation Israel had shared with its U.S. counterparts. The meeting shocked veteran U.S. counterspies. The American official was not arrested, and he continues to work in the White House today, albeit under close scrutiny.

That official, of course, was Donald Trump. The president’s Oval Office meeting with Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, and its then-ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak—which only Russian photographers were permitted to record—sparked a media brushfire that was quickly overtaken by more revelations of secret contacts between Trump associates and Kremlin agents. But the incident was not forgotten by American and Israeli security officials, or by longtime foreign intelligence allies of the U.S., who now wonder if the president can be trusted to protect their most guarded secrets.

For over a year, the question of collusion has driven various investigations into what’s become known as Russiagate. Special counsel Robert Mueller has been pursuing questions of whether Team Trump, which included the president’s son Donald Jr. and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, actively coordinated the Trump campaign with the Kremlin to hurt Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. That suspicion was bad enough, but now a far more grim consensus is developing in the topmost circles of the U.S. national security establishment: The president has become a pawn of America’s adversary, Russian President Vladimir Putin. It’s a nightmare scenario even the writers of House of Cards would have discarded as implausible.

Until now. In a December 18 interview on CNN, retired Air Force Lieutenant General James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, virtually called Trump a Putin puppet. The Russian president, Clapper noted, is a former KGB “case officer,” or spy recruiter, who "knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president. That’s the appearance to me." (Pressed to clarify his “asset” comment, Clapper said, “I’m saying this figuratively.”)

“Wow,“ tweeted former CIA Russian hand John Sipher. “The rest of us try to find other clever ways to say the same thing. Good on him for having the courage to call out Putin's behavior. Our president shouldn't have fallen for it.”

Veteran spy handlers have judged Trump an easy mark for Putin, who spent years in the KGB sizing up and exploiting a target’s vulnerabilities. They note how easily he falls for praise, as when Putin thanked him and the CIA for helping him thwart a bomb attack plot in St. Petersburg. “POTUS is a [spy] handlers' dream,” Asha Rangappa, a former special agent in the FBI’s counterintelligence division, said. “He responds, without fail, to praise and flattery and telegraphs his day-to-day thoughts on Twitter. Likewise, said Harry “Skip” Brandon, a former FBI deputy assistant director of national security and counterterrorism. “He often very publicly states he goes by his instincts. If that is accurate, he may be the ultimate unwitting asset of Russia.”

And so on. The steady drip of revelations emerging from multiple Trump investigations—his business deals with Russian investors, his associates’ many undeclared meetings with Kremlin agents, his resistance to accepting evidence of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and his indiscretion with Israeli intelligence—draws a far darker picture.

Some veteran intelligence operators think it’s well past time to shift the narrative on Trump’s disturbing affinity for Putin, which the president insists is innocent and good for world peace. “Everyone continues to dance around a clear assessment of what's going on,” says Glenn Carle, a former CIA national intelligence officer responsible for evaluating foreign threats. “My assessment,” he tells Newsweek, “is that Trump is actually working directly for the Russians.”

The Israelis can’t say they weren’t warned. In January 2017, a few weeks before Trump’s inauguration, top U.S. intelligence officials welcomed a delegation of their Israeli counterparts to Washington. The meeting proceeded uneventfully, according to veteran Israeli intelligence journalist Ronen Bergman, although the Americans vented their dismay over a president who had loudly disparaged their past work. “Just as their meeting was wrapping up,“ according to Bergman and a later report in Vanity Fair, “an American spymaster solemnly announced there was one more thing: [that] they believed that Putin had ‘leverages of pressure’ over Trump.” His advice: “Be careful.“

Five months later, the Israelis came to rue what they had shared with Trump’s new CIA director, former Republican Representative Mike Pompeo. They were astonished to read media reports that Trump had told the Russian foreign minister and ambassador about their top secret operation in Syria to penetrate a cell of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS). U.S. intelligence experts assumed the Russians had shared the information with their allies in Iran, Israel’s mortal enemy .

Clapper, now writing a book about his intelligence career, told Newsweek by email that “the Israelis were/are upset about it, since it proves once again we can’t be trusted to keep the secrets we share with them.”

Some of America’s closest intelligence allies were also upset by Trump’s leak, a top former national security official tells Newsweek, on the condition he not be identified when discussing such sensitive issues. “I hear the Brits are reluctant to share” intelligence on Russian subversion, he says, “not as much for security reasons as for political—they don’t wish to get crosswise with [Trump].”

Another analyst, Joseph Fitsanakis, co-editor of the Intel News blog, said relations between the U.K.’s spy chiefs and the Trump administration “are extremely tense.” During the 2016 campaign, he recalled, Trump riled London with an unsubstantiated claim that its version of the National Security Agency, the Government Communication Headquarters (better known as GCHQ), had eavesdropped on his communications. He refused to apologize.

Lower-level U.S. and foreign intelligence officials customarily find ways to deal with such high-level friction. But Trump’s repeated attacks on NATO have not only frustrated Washington’s closest allies but also raised questions as to whether the president has been duped into facilitating Putin’s long-range objective of undermining the European Union. “Some Western European colleagues are saying that sharing has been strictly limited to [counterterrorism] and some maritime [intelligence],” Fitsanakis says. “There's almost no sharing on Russia.”

How Trump’s attacks on “radical Islamic terrorism” will play out in the CIA’s relations with the spy services of Arab, African and Asian nations is not known. Historically, Langley has relied on such local partners to share its insights and intelligence on militant groups, —sometimes to its regret when double agents wormed their way into their ranks.

Israeli officials uncharacteristically howled publicly about Trump’s “betrayal” in May and have only recently calmed down. Still, their anger could be detected months later, when a former Mossad deputy director, Ram Ben Barak, did an interview with The Cipher Brief’s Kim Dozier. “The rule is, if I give you information to help you, you do not give this information to another side without my permission,” Ben Barak said. “I am sure he will not do it again because, you know, it hurts the relationship.”

But all signs point to Trump not caring who gets hurt if it serves his interests—and vanity. Despite constant evidence of Russian interference throughout the summer of 2016, culminating in a January report by Clapper and Jeh Johnson, his Department of Homeland Security counterpart, saying the Kremlin had worked to put Trump in office, the president evidently permitted his incoming national security adviser, Michael Flynn, to intrigue with the Russians over lifting sanctions—and apparently didn't care enough to fire him after learning Flynn had lied about it to the FBI. Flynn’s later indictment and plea deal, Trump tweeted, was “a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"

All this was going on, despite an explicit warning from the FBI to Trump soon after his nomination about potential espionage threats from Russia, according to NBC News. FBI agents also visited longtime Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks only days after the inauguration, saying that certain named Russian agents were trying to penetrate the new administration. Hicks, who says she forwarded the warning to White House counsel Donald McGahn, has not been accused of any wrongdoing.

Continually jousting with Trump over his denial that any of this amounted to “collusion” with the Russians is a distraction, say veteran intelligence hands. It amounts to looking for an explicit quid pro quo that may not exist. It misses, moreover, “what is right under our noses,” wrote Rangappa, the former FBI counterintelligence agent, along with Sipher, the onetime CIA Moscow station chief, and Alex Finley, a former CIA operations officer, in a joint piece for the Just Security website. “There is no question that Russia made multiple, unprecedented attempts to penetrate a U.S. presidential campaign, that its approaches were not rebuffed, and that its contacts were sensitive enough that everyone, to a person, has concealed them.

“These facts might never be adjudicated inside a courtroom,” they added. “They may not even be illegal—but they present a clear and present national security threat that we cannot ignore.

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http://www.newsweek.com/trump-putin-man-white-house-russia-investigation-scandal-moscow-kremlin-755321

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Putin's Man in the White House? Real Trump Russia Scandal Is Not Mere Collusion, US Counterspies Say (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #1
"Trump is actually working directly for the Russians" dalton99a Dec 2017 #2
Who would have ever thought this actually could happen LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #16
That's funny. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #33
At what point are these contacts considered actual espionage? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #3
at what point is it no longer considered espionage and we're just a russian satellite state? unblock Dec 2017 #7
Pretty soon... 2naSalit Dec 2017 #19
Jaw-dropping and beyond chilling! PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #4
if this article had appeared out of the blue, the entire world would be in shock renate Dec 2017 #5
You nailed it. Normalization. PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #10
"A Puppet Master's Dream". SergeStorms Dec 2017 #40
Incredibly enough... IluvPitties Dec 2017 #6
Yes, I remember when Romney said that! PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #12
Agree. So damn scary. Got to get democratic majority house in Nov 2018 and iluvtennis Dec 2017 #8
If they don't have the votes in the Senate, it won't matter what they do in the House. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #18
If the House can have public hearings NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #22
It's a nice idea, but THAT public opinion only comes from Fox. It's called confirmation bias. erronis Dec 2017 #30
Sadly, I agree with you. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2017 #37
Yes and Maxine Waters has been saying this from the beginning! She knows! PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #20
It's tragic that we can't roll back in EOs, signed legislation, and Judicial picks ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2017 #36
Same reaction I'd have had in years past if someone had told me Trump would be POTUS. maddiemom Dec 2017 #38
Maybe Fux Ruse was right...there was a coup. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #9
Yes PatSeg Dec 2017 #15
It was pretty clear more than a year ago that a coup was in process... pangaia Dec 2017 #32
As someone here called it Putins Invasion nm AmericanActivist Dec 2017 #11
An apt description dalton99a Dec 2017 #17
Puppets don't collude... czarjak Dec 2017 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Javaman Dec 2017 #14
I'm constantly looking for evidence that the Republican Party isn't also totally owned by Putin. Girard442 Dec 2017 #21
Ditto. nm AmericanActivist Dec 2017 #24
Yesterdays Repug ass-kissing daisy-chain confirms their loyalties... VOX Dec 2017 #31
K and R BadgerMom Dec 2017 #23
kick for visibility triron Dec 2017 #25
K&R +1000 ATL Ebony Dec 2017 #26
Good article Blue_Roses Dec 2017 #27
trump's been an asset of the Soviet Union since 1987 disalitervisum Dec 2017 #28
Sometimes things are so obvious that we tend to ignore them. kentuck Dec 2017 #29
Red Don is the new Red Dawn Blue Owl Dec 2017 #34
How is it not illegal? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2017 #35
That's all well and good, but what about the GOP Congress? Crash2Parties Dec 2017 #39

BigmanPigman

(51,592 posts)
33. That's funny.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:51 PM
Dec 2017

Someone left the DVD outside of my supermarket and I took it and re-did the graphics with Hillary, Trump and Putin. I gave it to my sister and she thought it was the original at first (I was an illustrator).

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
4. Jaw-dropping and beyond chilling!
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:04 PM
Dec 2017

In year's past, if someone had told me that in my lifetime a Russian asset would be elected President of the United States, I would have spit out my coffee laughing. Yet here we are.

HOLY FUCK.

K&R This article should be required reading for EVERYONE in the country!

renate

(13,776 posts)
5. if this article had appeared out of the blue, the entire world would be in shock
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:12 PM
Dec 2017

... and this couldn't be ignored, even by the GOP. But because it all happened so gradually, it's just become the new normal.

I've got to hand it to him... Putin is really good at what he does. (Although it's also true that Trump is a puppet master's dream.)

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
10. You nailed it. Normalization.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:03 PM
Dec 2017

It's like we're the frogs in the pot and the heat has slowly been turned up.
Can we escape and jump out in time? Is it too late? I seriously don't know and I'm scared out of my mind.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
40. "A Puppet Master's Dream".
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:04 AM
Dec 2017

You hit the nail on the head. Trump's narcissism plays right into Putin's hands. All he has to do is stroke Trump's ego, tell him what a great economy he's produced ( ) and what a mighty warrior leader he is for the U.S. Voila! Trump will hand over the nation's secrets, just like a playful pup - getting his belly rubbed - will lick your hands until they're raw. He'll do anything to please his master. It really is a sickening thing to behold.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
6. Incredibly enough...
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:15 PM
Dec 2017

Romney warned us in 2012 (3rd debate) and he was mocked... I guess the bastard knew what was going on behind the scenes in the GOP...

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
12. Yes, I remember when Romney said that!
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:15 PM
Dec 2017

Little did most of us know at the time!

Now that we're seeing what treasonous bastards like Nunes and his pals are up to (attacking the FBI and Mueller), I'm REALLY concerned!
And remember, EVERYTHING that these rat-fuckers do is with Paul Ryan's blessing.
No Re-Thug in the House so much as takes a pee without Ryan saying it's OK.

We are in deep, deep shit.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
8. Agree. So damn scary. Got to get democratic majority house in Nov 2018 and
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:47 PM
Dec 2017

start impeachment to get Traitor Trump out of the white house. He is there to tear down American institutions and thereby American democracy. And the GOP thugs can't see the forest for the trees cause they are being enriched.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
18. If they don't have the votes in the Senate, it won't matter what they do in the House.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:43 PM
Dec 2017

If they do have the votes in the Senate, the dem party will say that for the sake of healing the nation, they will work with the GOP. The democratic party has been milquetoast for decades now & yet everyone thinks they are going to be bulldogs if they win back any influence, when they just kicked one of their best bulldogs to the curb.

The dems are still too fucking nice. We will lose our country if they don't get in the ring ready to draw blood with the intent to pull off a KO.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. If the House can have public hearings
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 02:19 PM
Dec 2017

where people like Don Jr, Eric, Kush-Kush and others testify live on TV, it can swing public opinion even more strongly against Team Trump - these guys are not exactly rocket scientists.

erronis

(15,257 posts)
30. It's a nice idea, but THAT public opinion only comes from Fox. It's called confirmation bias.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 06:56 PM
Dec 2017

The repuglicans (and their soviet handlers) have learned to play it keenly.

For the perps, it's called blackmail and possibly drugs.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
36. It's tragic that we can't roll back in EOs, signed legislation, and Judicial picks ...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:10 AM
Dec 2017

If he is indeed found guilty of espionage against the very country he's supposed to lead.

There's no precedent for this in terms of an ill-gotten presidency; what are our options, if any, to get any of his EOs, signed legislation, and Judicial picks, voided? If he obtained the presidency illegally, then wouldn't it follow that all subsequent actions he's taken are illegal and not valid? I realize it's a pipe dream, but there's no precedent for this.

What do you think?

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
15. Yes
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:27 PM
Dec 2017

It clearly appears to be a coup. How convenient that Fox claims that Mueller's investigation is a coup, but it is always opposite world at Fox News.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Girard442

(6,072 posts)
21. I'm constantly looking for evidence that the Republican Party isn't also totally owned by Putin.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:56 PM
Dec 2017

Not finding it.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
31. Yesterdays Repug ass-kissing daisy-chain confirms their loyalties...
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 08:36 PM
Dec 2017

That obscene splooge-fest was as if Repugs know something, and are afraid to cross Putin, not his fucking puppet Donny.

Putin actually “disappears” dissidents, Donny’s trying but that pesky free press (aka “Fake News”) keeps flanking him.
For now.

Fascism has arrived in America, hang on.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
29. Sometimes things are so obvious that we tend to ignore them.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 05:14 PM
Dec 2017

It's too obvious to be true, we tell ourselves.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
39. That's all well and good, but what about the GOP Congress?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:27 AM
Dec 2017

They are not as easily manipulated by flattery, yet they too have strong ties to Putin.

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