If China is smart, they should offer to host a new UN.

[bronxiteforever]

They could move up their international standing and erode ours at the same time.

[Motley13]

1. Does the effing moron think Obama started the UN?

Every day the imbecile does something insane

[bronxiteforever]

2. These clowns lack critical reasoning skills of secondary consequences.

[Irish_Dem]

3. China will be a superpower and American won't.

A major power shift is occurring as we speak.

[bronxiteforever]

5. Agree. The Asian Century is here.

[Irish_Dem]

6. I also think we are going to see a Russia-China alliance. The old Sino-Soviet bloc. nt

[bronxiteforever]

8. And we are helping to build it for them.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Exactly, America cannot be trusted and is dangerous. nt

[Marengo]

10. A bloc which disintegrated and transformed into open hostility and conflict. Fundamentally, Chinese

Despise and distrust the Russian state. Xi is an empire builder to be sure and pragmatism may lead to a short-term agreement to act in mutual benefit, but the internal contradictions cannot be resolved without Russia making concessions it simply cannot accept.

[Irish_Dem]

11. I agree, but China plays the long game, has patience, and may use Russia to

further its goal of becoming a superpower?

What do you think?

[Marengo]

15. Possibly, if the Russians allow themselves to be played. It will be interesting to observe.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Certainly Putin would get something out of a short term alliance.

He wishes to be a world superpower and become more wealthy.

[bronxiteforever]

13. They both share the desire to see the US fall.

Russia hates US run NATO and its expansion and China wants to push us out of the pacific back to Hawaii.
I think China is succeeding extremely well. Russia moved up its game by the cyber attacks on our election. Sure it’s a marriage of convenience but orange Nero has made it very convenient.

[Marengo]

14. I know all of this. China may well enter into an alliance with Russia to achieve its hegemonic...

Goals in Asia, but China is also well aware that Russia is a declining state and it will only be a matter of time before it turns on Russia to demand a redress of the concessions forced on China by the unequal treaties.

[bronxiteforever]

16. Well you make good points, but the Chinese/ us trade war is coming in 2018.

Russia will be on the back burner for China plus Russia has oil on its side.

[Irish_Dem]

23. What would Putin's position be in a China-US trade war?

Would he get involved, take sides, or stay out of it.

[Irish_Dem]

22. Certainly China could align short term with Putin to make gains against the US.

But you are right, Putin and Russia have some baggage as well as the issues you mention. And then China could move on.

I think they may have some conflict over Africa as well. China is heavily invested there and Russia I think wants in.

[Irish_Dem]

18. I agree. China is already the regional power I believe and yes wants the US out

of the Asian power sphere. And doing a good job of that.
And yes Russia wants to be a superpower and push the US down in status.
So yes I think of marriage of convenience.

[roamer65]

21. Its been around for a few years. Its official name is SCO.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

http://eng.sectsco.org/

This is the public face of the Sino-Russian alliance.

Russia, China and India are full members of SCO.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Shanghai is the wealthy and powerful financial center of China.

Beijing even leaves them alone to make deals and money.

So the SCO alliance is about big money?

[roamer65]

25. Money and regional power.

[Irish_Dem]

28. Fascinating. China and India represent about 36% of the world's population?

China has made very rapid economic gains internally and seems to be positioning itself quite carefully and deliberately on a regional and international path.

[RKP5637]

30. Definitely will happen! The US is falling behind in so many ways. And the incompetent in the WH

it totally clueless. Couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag. The US had a good run of it after WWII with no real competition, but has been backsliding for sometime now. And often the US is its own worst enemy with all of the fighting in this country. And, the fact that a damn fool like Trump could ascend to the presidency is very telling. And, we have the GOP that wants to bury most of the country. It's a damn poor recipe for success.

[Irish_Dem]

32. I agree with everything you say.

And we are a violent, racist society, with a lower standard of living than the other industrialized countries. Young people cannot afford an education.
Lack of a secure voting system, gerrymandering and rigged elections (Gore/Bush).
Starting an illegal war, with torture. All makes for a very poor role model.
And yes, Trump is the frosting on the cake of decline.

[RKP5637]

35. I had so much hope as a youth, and I was fortunate, there were tremendous opportunities

and often it was just taking advantage of them. Today, I don't think I would have those opportunities as a youth, and that is very sad. I view the US of today as an example of the worst parts of capitalism, unregulated, and many climbing over each other with greed and one-upmanship. It's just often not a pleasant place.

[Irish_Dem]

37. Yes same here.

We could afford to go to college for example. My daughter is looking at graduate schools now and costs are running about $80K a year. Unreal. School debt will preclude buying a house, car or starting a family for quite some time after graduation.

I think unregulated capitalism has ruined the American dream. We have turned the country over to the 1%.

[LonePirate]

4. I think there is a real possibility of this, although the UN would prefer Japan or Australia.

[bronxiteforever]

7. Interesting choices. I think today signals another end of American

Leadership.

[Brother Buzz]

19. That, or move it back to San Francisco where UN was formed

California would totally support the UN

[Motley13]

20. my money is on Xi Jinping

he is smart and not abrasive, true Asian style. I feel Putin is on his way out, hopefully.
Xi knows exactly how to play the moron as well as Abe does.

The moron is making us the 3rd world country.

[RKP5637]

31. Yes, Xi Jinping is very talented and seems to be likable, unlike our dunce. n/t

[Hoyt]

26. Well, they are going to head up a new TransPacific Partnership.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. There are existing UN offices in Geneva, Nairobi and Vienna.

Maybe one of those could become the headquarters.

[Stinky The Clown]

29. The GOPedo war on the UN is quite old, actually.

Showwahanz . . . . . who remembers guys like Jesse Helms?

[dflprincess]

34. Pretty much from the day the charter was signed in June of 1945. nt

[rickford66]

33. Another Trump scheme?

UN moves. Trump buys empty building in fire sale. Turns it into another Trump condo.

[NewJeffCT]

36. They will wait for Team Trump to piss on the UN and threaten to boot them out

then, China comes in and looks like the savior of the UN