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question everything

(47,485 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:53 PM Dec 2017

Sometime I wish for the return of the cold war

From a story in TIME: Peak funding for NASA was in 1966, when the agency received 4.4% of the federal budget. Today it gets less than 0.5%

I often refer to my spouse an myself as the "Sputnik generation." We were encouraged to study science. Money was there. And, of course, all the innovations that we take for granted were developed by Bell and other laboratories.

There were good jobs for engineers and other technical people.

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Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
1. Me to
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 10:55 PM
Dec 2017

And Russia is at war with us as speak. The difference is a good percentage of our nation is on their side instead of on the side of freedom this time.

We built the highways, cleaned up our air, water and invested in science in those times...

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
6. Yeah, I posted something about it last night ... looks like they are trying to really start
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:06 PM
Dec 2017

something now with NK. tRump would welcome it as a smoke screen.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210009221

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
3. Same here, I was of the "Sputnik generation" too. It seemed we were firing on all cylinders and
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:02 PM
Dec 2017

many things felt good. I had great opportunities I welcomed and took advantage of in the corp. world in technology. It all meshed well and people welcomed those interested in science and engineering, and advancements in technology. Also, TPTB listened to the scientific community.


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Not me, although I get the science aspect. I think many here are hostile toward the Ruskies.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:04 PM
Dec 2017

I get that, but we meddled in their and others’ election plenty of times.

I’m mad at us for letting them and Trump get away with it. We should have been better prepared, and better get our cyber act together quickly.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
9. Well, yes. It is just a fact of life that we needed a war to promote science and technology
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

Several years ago I attended a presentation by Neil deGrasse Tyson, lamenting the complete ignorance by, yes, members of Congress, expressing a similar notion, that we needed the cold war to promote and encourage innovations.

In a similar way, I think, real hot wars on the ground promote new innovation in treating seriously wounded and developing good prostheses.

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
5. I believe the Russians finally won the Cold War in 2016.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:05 PM
Dec 2017

Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev and all the others are laughing and toasting with vodka shots at the results of the U.S. Election of 2016. And all without their firing a single bullet or dropping even 1 bomb. They successfully tilted results and installed their candidate who is causing continuous 24/7 chaos while deconstructing and destroying our Democracy, Constitution and rule-of-law brick by brick.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
7. Sputnik resulted in a major overhaul of the American educational system
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:07 PM
Dec 2017

with a push to better educate students, especially in the sciences, but education departments were helped as well.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
8. Yep, Back when we were rivals and competitors of Russia (USSR then) rather than it's subject.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:37 PM
Dec 2017

Basically, now we are Russia's plaything.

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