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JI7

(89,250 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:41 AM Dec 2017

What Makes Me Most Angry about the Al Franken Situation

Last edited Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:09 AM - Edit history (2)

What makes me the most angry about this whole thing is that it was very obviously a right wing hit job. the right wing was running a child molestor for Senate. Yet some democrats felt like they had to defend themselves .

as if republicans were forced to support perverted scum like trump and moore because of Franken . FUCK THAT. not even because of bill clinton who had millions spent investigating him and only showed he was an adulterer .

the first Franken accusor was a right wing piece of shit FUCKING BIRTHER that supports the pervert scum trump and moore. and then other BS accusations came out where the pic or whatever evidence they claimed to have went against their claims. and then the attention seeking no talent TYT idiot Tina Dupuy who thought it would help get her attention and help her career.

the women who actually worked for Franken throughout decades were ignored and instead the words of a fucking birther piece of shit was allowed to stand.

and then there is the fact we see this shit happen AGAIN AND AGAIN. the swift boat liars, benghazi, birther crap etc etc. it followed the same fucking pattern .

If Max Cleland was running for office today would the response to right wing attacks on him be to demand an apology from him for not being sufficiently wounded in war ??????

(also want to add the reason Franken was targeted was mostly because of his exposing the Russia connection with his questioning. at a time when democrats have no control of govt at the national level, Franken was the most effective we had)

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What Makes Me Most Angry about the Al Franken Situation (Original Post) JI7 Dec 2017 OP
It's a disgrace. joshcryer Dec 2017 #1
I absolutely agree, it's a huge loss Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #2
You said what Ive been thinking perfectly, TY! arthritisR_US Dec 2017 #3
Where's that thread hijacker who really really likes the fact that Al is leaving NBachers Dec 2017 #4
i'm with matt damon. we need perspective. fraken had no penis eruptions. pansypoo53219 Dec 2017 #5
KnR Hekate Dec 2017 #6
K&R betsuni Dec 2017 #7
He deserves JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #8
K&R. lunamagica Dec 2017 #9
Watch wendyb Dec 2017 #10
This. mn9driver Dec 2017 #15
Especially when you know for sure treestar Dec 2017 #11
I juggle sadness and anger. Franken fought hard to get to the Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #12
Very good post. You summed it up well. yardwork Dec 2017 #13
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #18
At least we learned who shouldn't run for president nuxvomica Dec 2017 #14
+100 correct blue cat Dec 2017 #17
In all my voting years, blue cat Dec 2017 #16
You know this is not the first right wing hit. What will Dems do with the next one? They Amaryllis Dec 2017 #19

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
1. It's a disgrace.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 04:29 AM
Dec 2017

And the right wing will use left wing purity politics, also known as signaling, or identity politics, against them. Be forewarned.

Rhiannon12866

(205,405 posts)
2. I absolutely agree, it's a huge loss
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 04:39 AM
Dec 2017

He was a force to be reckoned with on the judiciary committee, he was informed and articulate and fearless about speaking out. The people of Minnesota have lost a powerful advocate - and so have the rest of us.

pansypoo53219

(20,977 posts)
5. i'm with matt damon. we need perspective. fraken had no penis eruptions.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:19 AM
Dec 2017

do the investigation. PROVE IT.

wendyb

(60 posts)
10. Watch
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:52 AM
Dec 2017

His seat was not an easy win. I have a sinking feeling we will pay for this in many ways. Of course, the loss of arguably our best senator is mammoth. I also worry that his seat will end up with a Republican win. I could not bear to watch his last speech. The lack of due process and the rush to judgement led by the pile on of his fellow Democrats led by Gillibrand was brutal to witness.
Heartsick over this.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Especially when you know for sure
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:00 AM
Dec 2017

that if it happens to the Republicans, they would never do that and the Senator involved would never resign.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
12. I juggle sadness and anger. Franken fought hard to get to the
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:01 AM
Dec 2017

place where he could be a warrior for liberal and Democratic beliefs. His fights were dedicated, determined and successful without the ultra drama of flashier, pandering egomaniacs.

Republicans targeted his seat because they saw a potential “opening” and vulnerability and the added perk of bringing down a former member of SNL was just too much to resist. We all know Republicans haven’t got an iota of humor or wit but shitloads of vengeance agenda and soulless plotting.

Also, because the insidious hideousness of sexual harassment is finally and successfully being addressed, they saw an opportunity to use that as well.

The initial allegation against Franken was an insulting embarrassment and disservice to the millions of women who ARE victimized and targeted, and after the flurry of “fifteen minutes of fame”, the woman’s victimization could be seen for what it was, a hit job. In this climate of “The Stupid” and reality show mentality ratings obsession it was a breeze to get tons of air time and Internet attention. Even so, Franken owned up to the embarrassment of a juvenile photo op and put himself squarely and honestly in the hands of a Senate’s ethics commitee investigation.

In this instance, the other pile-on allegations that weren’t cloaked by the sometimes sorely abused convenience of “anonymity” were lame at best~ and another outrageous disservice to the sufferings of true victims of abuse and predators , who genuinely guard their privacy and lives with sound reasons.

The Perfect Storm of political opportunity to attack.

And then his fellow/Pal/co-worker/friend Democrat Senators stepped up to bring him totally down. Jaysus, how eager they were. And in this woman’s eyes, how easily and predictably manipulated they were when in the “name” of the high road (Which Republicans never travel) they denied a fair and honest chance for Al Franken to challenge the allegations, face his accusers, openly investigate all and accept their findings, with total co-operation.
(Accusers who miraculously drifted off into the convenient land of nothingness immediately)
Et tu, Democrats?

The Republicans quietly and smugly smiled. Check off another easy target. Democrats administered the final shot to the head. Our own head.

Now plot to take that seat, Republicans!

We lose a warrior and my juggling act continues.

nuxvomica

(12,426 posts)
14. At least we learned who shouldn't run for president
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:07 AM
Dec 2017

The Democratic nominee in 2020 should not be someone who acts on anonymous testimony, supports zero tolerance authoritarianism or is fooled by obvious right-wing skullduggery.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
19. You know this is not the first right wing hit. What will Dems do with the next one? They
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:41 PM
Dec 2017

set a precedent and showed how easily they cave.

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