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Trump ambassador shouts 'fake news' at reporter -- and gets immediately busted with damning video (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Lying is their native tongue. CentralMass Dec 2017 #1
+1 2naSalit Dec 2017 #7
Can I steal that? PdxSean Dec 2017 #16
Please do. CentralMass Dec 2017 #20
Swhy every dem and every real journalist should have this reply ready. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #36
Absolutley! Cha Dec 2017 #46
Aloha, Cha!! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #49
They all need to be confronted at the time they lie onit2day Dec 2017 #41
Well said. Cha Dec 2017 #45
"I didn't say 'fake news'." - You literally said 'fake news' a few minutes ago on camera!!! DetlefK Dec 2017 #2
if it was so fucking absurd, it would read like a monty python sketch. nt Javaman Dec 2017 #23
Your arms off! No it isnt! Indeed... Lucky Luciano Dec 2017 #40
Oh, there is a Monty Python sketch exactly like that: DetlefK Dec 2017 #54
Oh yeah. John Cleese as the "whatever it is, no it isn't" guy. Archae Dec 2017 #55
Hah! Busted! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #3
Isn't it great when a good journalist comes prepared? !!!! groundloop Dec 2017 #4
This is our ambassador to the Netherlands! How embarrassing! Cringe. yardwork Dec 2017 #5
The Dutch, as with most Europeans, can distinguish between Republican wingnuts and Democratic Nitram Dec 2017 #35
Hello Nitram syringis Dec 2017 #53
They have become so accustomed to lying Maggiemayhem Dec 2017 #6
Trumpism is a disease Renew Deal Dec 2017 #8
Your arm's off! knightmaar Dec 2017 #9
We live in a world where everything said by people SnowCritter Dec 2017 #10
"I didn't call that fake news.." Permanut Dec 2017 #11
I know, right? They're never so graceful as when they lie, quickly and seamlessly. marble falls Dec 2017 #14
Fake Ambassador! What a zentrum Dec 2017 #12
Great tweet I saw about this on my timeline: Saviolo Dec 2017 #13
Willful Ignorance For Dummies Beartracks Dec 2017 #42
love it when they go sputtter sputt sputt. typical AllaN01Bear Dec 2017 #15
Trump and all of his people are deplorable scum. nt ecstatic Dec 2017 #17
Geezz! And they're not even good liars... paleotn Dec 2017 #18
Unfortunately, the clip is no longer good. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #19
I was just able to view it. JDC Dec 2017 #24
Nope, I just tried and got the same response, joshdawg Dec 2017 #26
I can see it on both the rawstory link and via the twitter link JDC Dec 2017 #28
Thanks for the link. joshdawg Dec 2017 #32
That brings me to something with lots of posts and no link to the video. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #51
Here JDC Dec 2017 #58
I was just able to watch it on Twitter CatWoman Dec 2017 #30
I just learned last week yonder Dec 2017 #37
I don't see a blue twitter bird anywhere. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #52
Clip works for me flying_wahini Dec 2017 #39
it works fine for me at the time of this posting JI7 Dec 2017 #56
In this case... floWteiuQ Dec 2017 #21
It seems as if carrying around video clips as a journalist is a very good idea. Maraya1969 Dec 2017 #44
How About Fake Humsns SeaDoo77 Dec 2017 #22
What a shit show our "leaders" have become JDC Dec 2017 #25
We actually had one. Some gal named Hillary... calimary Dec 2017 #31
In his defence Perseus Dec 2017 #27
I'm shocked! Shocked! keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #29
Read elsewhere that he was born in Groningen (in NL) SwissTony Dec 2017 #33
would be nice if Trump voters saw this Hamlette Dec 2017 #34
That ambassadors first name would not happen to be Pinocchio by any chance would it? cstanleytech Dec 2017 #38
This behavior of making up false situations in various parts of Europe to try and smear Maraya1969 Dec 2017 #43
When I compare the level of this imbecile to the level of the Dutch Ambassador to the USA DFW Dec 2017 #47
Hey moron! edbermac Dec 2017 #48
I guess I trust "fake news" more than I trust "Trumped up news" world wide wally Dec 2017 #50
hopefully he makes a stupid statement that lands him in court.. drray23 Dec 2017 #57
This idiot is just as stupid as trump Gothmog Dec 2017 #59

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
36. Swhy every dem and every real journalist should have this reply ready.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Locked and loaded.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
54. Oh, there is a Monty Python sketch exactly like that:
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:28 AM
Dec 2017

It's about a guy who would like to have an argument. (Look it up. It's really good.)

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
4. Isn't it great when a good journalist comes prepared? !!!!
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:51 AM
Dec 2017

Too bad most of our journalists have been late to the party (and of course we all know that they gave 45* a mostly free pass all the way up to the election).

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
35. The Dutch, as with most Europeans, can distinguish between Republican wingnuts and Democratic
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:29 PM
Dec 2017

members of the resistance. They are rooting for us.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
53. Hello Nitram
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:13 AM
Dec 2017

Indeed.

An editorial cartoon from a Dutch newspaper :

Trump's ambassador just got caught lying to the Dutch



Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
6. They have become so accustomed to lying
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:56 AM
Dec 2017

That they can’t keep up with their own lies. They are taught to just get certain talking points out in the general media knowing Americans are too stupid or won’t take the time to fact check. When certain media selectively edit video, it is hard to convince the right wing worshippers that tha narrative is utter bullshit. Cognitive dissonance. The RNC sends out their list of lies everyday. They are the most immoral group on the planet.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
10. We live in a world where everything said by people
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:39 AM
Dec 2017

in positions of power is recorded. You would think that they would realize that, but they don't.

<trump voice>Sad!</trump voice>

Permanut

(5,610 posts)
11. "I didn't call that fake news.."
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:44 AM
Dec 2017

"I didn't use the word today. I don't think I did."

"But we have it on tape, Ambassador Hoekstra, just a few minutes ago. Would you like to see the tape?"

"I didn't mean THAT word. I meant the word "rumpelstiltskin"."

"You don't think you used the word 'rumplestiltskin' today? Wouldn't you recall something like that?"

"But what about Benghazi and the emails?"

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
13. Great tweet I saw about this on my timeline:
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017



“Fake news” has never really meant “This is a lie.” It’s tribal signaling. It means, “I give you permission to ignore this fact that’s not good for our team.”

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
42. Willful Ignorance For Dummies
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:07 PM
Dec 2017

Their "leaders" now actually tell the sheep what to willfully ignore.

Turns out, they're supposed to willfully ignore practically everything.

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paleotn

(17,920 posts)
18. Geezz! And they're not even good liars...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:55 AM
Dec 2017

In the great political shuffling since the 70's (back when we actually had socially liberal Republicans and racist Dixiecrats), it seems the low IQs migrated to the Republican party.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
51. That brings me to something with lots of posts and no link to the video.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:46 AM
Dec 2017

Too bad. I'd really like to see it.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
44. It seems as if carrying around video clips as a journalist is a very good idea.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:37 PM
Dec 2017

Great that this journalist thought be be prepared.

I would love for someone to do that to Trump

JDC

(10,128 posts)
25. What a shit show our "leaders" have become
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:12 AM
Dec 2017

The Wing Nuts used to always talk about apology tours, we are going to need apology ambassadors just to travel the world making right all that the relationships we are shredding right now. Our reputation might be irreparable.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
31. We actually had one. Some gal named Hillary...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:43 AM
Dec 2017

After she became President Obama’s Secretary of State, she traveled extensively to smooth feathers, reassure our allies that we weren’t international war criminals, and rehabilitate our image to the rest of the world, after bush/cheney’s WMD lies and war lies and torture excuses and other sins. Repaired and rebuilt a lot of broken bridges that the last wrecking crew left behind. John Kerry then continued building on that improvement.

And now we have Moron/Christofascist, systematically ransacking the joint yet again. Just fabulous, ‘eh?

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
27. In his defence
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:16 AM
Dec 2017

He did not "shout" "fake news" to the reporter...lets give him that, he just said it.

But the level of insincerity, of lying is so profound, it is at the point of code red. To even say that he didn't call it "fake news" when a couple of minutes he did...you can see in the reporter's puzzled expression, he cannot believe it.

Why is this being accepted?

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
33. Read elsewhere that he was born in Groningen (in NL)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:02 PM
Dec 2017

and his family emigrated when he was 3 years old. He may even speak Dutch.

But he's coming over here...anti-gay, anti-abortion and a lying arsehole to boot. He'll do well.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
34. would be nice if Trump voters saw this
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:52 PM
Dec 2017

and "got it". Which they won't. But I'll save it in case the fever breaks.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
43. This behavior of making up false situations in various parts of Europe to try and smear
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:34 PM
Dec 2017

Muslims is right out of the Putin play book. It is repulsive to see an American behaving exactly as Putin wants him to behave.

This type of talk is why Brexit happened. And it is why the Nazi party in France almost won the election to the presidential office.

Putin and Trump and the rest of these deplorables want to sow unrest and create chaos so that their dictatorial regimes will gain power. They must be fought at every turn.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
47. When I compare the level of this imbecile to the level of the Dutch Ambassador to the USA
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:53 PM
Dec 2017

I can relate a story from a few years back.

When a friend of mine was Canadian Ambassador to the USA, he used to throw a big July 4th party on the Canadian Embassy roof in Washington for his Washington friends. One year when I was in town, I was there (second best view of the fireworks in DC except for the White House balcony), and heard a guy with an American accent talking in English to a guy with a Dutch accent.

Not expecting to hear a Dutch accent on the roof of the Canadian embassy, I said hi in Dutch. The Dutch guy was just as surprised as I was and said (in Dutch) that he thought he was the only one there from the Netherlands. I said he might be right as I was American. The American broke in, and said, hey guys, a little pity for the friendly natives, here. How about a language we all know? I said sure, pick one.

He said OK, how about Russian? I said no problem for me, but I didn't know about our Dutch friend. "Our Dutch friend" happened to be the Dutch ambassador to the USA, and spoke passable Russian, since his previous posting had been Ambassador to Russia. I then asked the American guy how come he knew Russian. He turned out to be an assistant Secretary of Defense. Oh, OK. That's a good reason.

Compare that to the level of this idiot accusing the Dutch media ready with a video clip to show Trump's clown to be a fraud and a liar for all of the Netherlands to see. THIS is the caliber of "diplomat" Trump and Tillerson are sending out to represent us to our allies. You'd think Putin was picking them himself, thinking, "OK, who of all these lamebrains will put the USA in the worst possible light?"

drray23

(7,633 posts)
57. hopefully he makes a stupid statement that lands him in court..
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:25 AM
Dec 2017

In europe you can be fined or even jailed if you do things like denying the holocaust or make racist statements inciting violence. Some of these deplorable that are now ambassador may find out pretty soon. Likewise the media will call you out if you lie.

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