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Hoping this is true... (Original Post) kpete Dec 2017 OP
I hope that Pence is caught. yardwork Dec 2017 #1
Yes, and those in Congress who are complicit AwakeAtLast Dec 2017 #28
That is why it is vital that we retake the House in 2018. Blue_true Dec 2017 #41
Or, at the very least, knock off Lyin' Ryan in Wisconsin! lastlib Dec 2017 #72
This has been my hope for some time Maeve Dec 2017 #2
I think they mean GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #3
Kick dalton99a Dec 2017 #4
Well, not likely true if they can't even spell his name right: Schneiderman lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #5
Yep! Thank you for pointing that out! Dennis Donovan Dec 2017 #59
+1 Historic NY Dec 2017 #73
lots of typos, but since I'm guilty of that as well... Do you know anything about who is writing? hlthe2b Dec 2017 #6
You quilty of tippos? 😉 sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #78
McConnell and and Ryan are also in the zone BSdetect Dec 2017 #7
Nunes as well. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #66
Mueller is gibraltar72 Dec 2017 #8
This is my thought also. LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #9
Pulling this string will unravel the entire government Abouttime Dec 2017 #10
There is not a precedent for that, or is there something in the constitution? 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #23
No precedent for an election coup orchestrated by enemies foreign and domestic. If it Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #27
Oh ... would but that be so! KPN Dec 2017 #38
No, the Leader of the U S House of Representatives become President. Blue_true Dec 2017 #43
do you think this is funny? Skittles Dec 2017 #56
"Installing" a president does not happen in a democracy. thesquanderer Dec 2017 #71
Don't be ridiculous. There's no way under the Constitution The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #76
This would be malaise Dec 2017 #11
There most likely have been crimes committed in New Jersey, too. They'll have a Democratic... George II Dec 2017 #12
Is the AG in Jersey a Dem? Blue_true Dec 2017 #44
The attorney general in New Jersey is appointed by the governor. Probably will be a Democrat. George II Dec 2017 #49
Great to here that with a Dem coming in. Blue_true Dec 2017 #60
Here is info on who Phil Murphy intends to name AG for NJ NJCher Dec 2017 #62
Me too....nt 2naSalit Dec 2017 #13
Sounds good to me... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #14
Can't wait! SHRED Dec 2017 #15
I'd love for this to happen as it causes even more damage to Trump even faster Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #16
Was thinking bot, as well. The English is amusing Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #19
There is no statute dealing with collusion. Does the author speak English? Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #17
That was my take also.. the grammar, . missing commas, apostrophies, etc.. pangaia Dec 2017 #30
Haaaa. Just what Im doing now Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #32
urwelkom pangaia Dec 2017 #33
Fk trmp an al hs crnis! Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #35
c.! korett spelign adn putncutaton r unecessayr pangaia Dec 2017 #37
Best paragraph I've read in quite a while. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #18
Oh please, please make it so! kimbutgar Dec 2017 #20
Although I have little hope for this actually happening mountain grammy Dec 2017 #21
That sounds great but how does this person know Mueller's plans? IronLionZion Dec 2017 #22
I Agree but... Horizens Dec 2017 #40
This would be the quickest way bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #24
This is why he brought in Schneiderman in the first place. GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #25
Im sure they have them all in their sights TEB Dec 2017 #83
We'll know this has merit as soon as the Scneiderman smearing goes non stop 24/7 eleny Dec 2017 #26
Then let it begin! KPN Dec 2017 #39
It's Fitzmas all over again. progressoid Dec 2017 #29
Man did I get coalraked for saying that when last weeks big bust was so assuredly announced in Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #34
I remember those days eleny Dec 2017 #42
I hope so too. I want that orange asshole to be charge with violation of the Javaman Dec 2017 #31
Hope is easily taken advantage of...I believe nothing anymore unless I see it. nt Vilis Veritas Dec 2017 #36
I believe this to be true based on what Schneiderman himself has said. Silver Gaia Dec 2017 #45
You should make this an original post & title it, CrispyQ Dec 2017 #46
Glad I could help! Silver Gaia Dec 2017 #63
I read that the AG in Baltimore is going to get Jared BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #57
Interesting! And yup, Trump can't pardon state charges. Silver Gaia Dec 2017 #64
Was "Schneiderman" ever spelled correctly even once in this 'article'? mr_lebowski Dec 2017 #80
I don't care about that. My opinion is not based on this meme, Silver Gaia Dec 2017 #81
Two prior pieces of information citizen blues Dec 2017 #47
republicans x1959b Dec 2017 #68
hmmm rtracey Dec 2017 #48
#AssetForfeiture (R) Achilleaze Dec 2017 #50
They can set up a GoFundMe account to try and raise the billion dollars Ilsa Dec 2017 #67
Oh the poetic justice..New York brings down New Yorker. SummerSnow Dec 2017 #51
I saw this on that same site... SummerSnow Dec 2017 #52
I've thought this GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #53
Civil Rico or criminal Rico? Sanity Claws Dec 2017 #54
We can hope.nm Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #55
This sounds like a plausible scenario rock Dec 2017 #58
Please, please, let it be true... Perseus Dec 2017 #61
While we are hoping - would like to see the kochs and mercers added. MarcA Dec 2017 #65
omg oh please oh please ..... TalenaGor Dec 2017 #69
One fly in the ointment. A sitting president can't be indicted, only lutherj Dec 2017 #70
Mmmm, it seems like indictment is at least a possibility summer_in_TX Dec 2017 #74
That makes almost no sense. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #75
There is a Christmas Carol nicely sung by the kiddos at Kings College, U.K. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #77
This would be great but how does this guy know? Mueller doesn't leak. Kablooie Dec 2017 #79
This would truly be a sweet christmas present Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #82
kick for visibility triron Dec 2017 #84

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. That is why it is vital that we retake the House in 2018.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
Dec 2017

Pence won't go quickly, but we need to be ready when he does. I would much rather see Nancy Pelosi as Fillin President until the elections of 2020 rather that Paul Ryan or any other republican.

lastlib

(23,238 posts)
72. Or, at the very least, knock off Lyin' Ryan in Wisconsin!
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:02 PM
Dec 2017

Granted, some other Repug could be almost as bad, but it would sweeten things to know he won't get to be pResidunce.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
2. This has been my hope for some time
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:01 AM
Dec 2017

Schneiderman is our ace in the hole and Mueller appears to know it. If tRump tries to go after the investigation on the federal level, the state level may be triggered, just like the safety letter in criminal fiction.

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
6. lots of typos, but since I'm guilty of that as well... Do you know anything about who is writing?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:14 AM
Dec 2017

Is this someone within the NYAG's office or adjacent that could be in the know? Yes, I know we already know that the two are working together, but is there more to this than that? Anyone know this blogger?

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
10. Pulling this string will unravel the entire government
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:14 AM
Dec 2017

Trump, Pence, Sessions, Ryan and many more are going to prison.
Our side will make a deal and Hillary will be installed as President.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
27. No precedent for an election coup orchestrated by enemies foreign and domestic. If it
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:29 PM
Dec 2017

comes to pass that such a monstrous thing occurred the only option is another Presidential election.

And the national electoral commissions are already good to go for November. Just add another ballot for the abandoned WH!

KPN

(15,646 posts)
38. Oh ... would but that be so!
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:57 PM
Dec 2017

And also that all Exec Orders and legislation signed by the criminal were automatically invalidated.

One can only dream.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. No, the Leader of the U S House of Representatives become President.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:21 PM
Dec 2017

And that person picks a Vice President. Even if the Speaker of the House is a republican, that person would be very wise to pick a Democrst as VP. But if the Soeaker is a Democrat, given what has happened, that person would be under no pressure to pick a republican as VP, the very opposite may be more important, picking a ethically pure Democrat as VP.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
71. "Installing" a president does not happen in a democracy.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:48 PM
Dec 2017

Nor would we want it to, no matter who it was.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. There most likely have been crimes committed in New Jersey, too. They'll have a Democratic...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:02 PM
Dec 2017

...administration early next year.

I just hope they start filing charges early next year in NY, and possibly NJ.

Damn, that asset forfeiture is beautiful!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. Great to here that with a Dem coming in.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:05 PM
Dec 2017

Again, we have a perfect illustration of the importance of intelligent voting in ALL elections.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
62. Here is info on who Phil Murphy intends to name AG for NJ
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:55 PM
Dec 2017
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/12/phil_murphy_to_appoint_njs_first_sikh_attorney_gen.html

snip

Prior to being Bergen County's top law enforcement officer, he worked as the former chief of the Economic Crimes Unit at the U.S. Attorney's Office under former federal prosecutor Paul Fishman.

snip

Stinky The Clown

(67,800 posts)
16. I'd love for this to happen as it causes even more damage to Trump even faster
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

BUT . . . . and it is a HUGE (Yooooge) B U T . . . . . this seems like just more rank speculation by some heretofore unknown political dreamer. Or a Russian operative skunking us.

So, while I would love it to be true, I will file it right next to Bigfoot stories.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
17. There is no statute dealing with collusion. Does the author speak English?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:11 PM
Dec 2017

The grammar! Oh, the grammar!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. That was my take also.. the grammar, . missing commas, apostrophies, etc..
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:42 PM
Dec 2017

--cant spell that:&gt )

it's like when I type 1 finger on my cell...

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
22. That sounds great but how does this person know Mueller's plans?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:19 PM
Dec 2017

I'll believe it when I see it. At that point you are most welcome to tell me "I told you so".

bucolic_frolic

(43,172 posts)
24. This would be the quickest way
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:21 PM
Dec 2017

and immobilize them while the Russian campaign money trail ripples through Congress

I'm thinking we might know more before the end of January

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
25. This is why he brought in Schneiderman in the first place.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:24 PM
Dec 2017

Along with all of the other RICO laws prosecutors. Got to hope he has laid similar traps for all of the co-conspirators in Congress, too.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
26. We'll know this has merit as soon as the Scneiderman smearing goes non stop 24/7
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

Hoping it's true, too.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
34. Man did I get coalraked for saying that when last weeks big bust was so assuredly announced in
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:47 PM
Dec 2017

advance

eleny

(46,166 posts)
42. I remember those days
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
Dec 2017

So much hope dashed. It was because soldiers were dying. Right now we aren't at that level of death but we worry with good reason that it's coming.

Somehow, the letdown will be worse if we don't get the relief the country deserves. Democracy is at stake.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
31. I hope so too. I want that orange asshole to be charge with violation of the
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:44 PM
Dec 2017

RICO act.

That's serious shit and very hard to slither out from under.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
45. I believe this to be true based on what Schneiderman himself has said.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:37 PM
Dec 2017

On November 29, he quoted himself from the GQ interview linked below in a tweet. The quote was:

"If we can’t get checks on the presidency from Congress, my office won’t hesitate to fill the space. I’m willing to bet on the rule of law.”

(NOTE: "by Congress" could be taken two ways: 1) the Congressional committees fail to act, or 2) Congress fails to act when Mueller concludes his investigation and recommends impeachment.)

Evidently, Schneiderman wanted to stress that point by tweeting it as a quote. I have long felt that he is part of the backup plan. If for any reason, it is necessary for him to step in so that justice prevails, I believe he will not hesitate to do do. Whenever I begin to feel hopeless, I remind myself of this.

GQ article: New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman on What It Takes to Keep Trump in Check: https://www.gq.com/story/new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-trump-interview/amp?__twitter_impression=true

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
46. You should make this an original post & title it,
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:24 PM
Dec 2017

For those who need a glimmer of hope.

Thanks for this!

BigmanPigman

(51,594 posts)
57. I read that the AG in Baltimore is going to get Jared
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:44 PM
Dec 2017

on real estate ethics. The states AGs are our back-up plan! It doesn't matter if The Moron and Jared are pardoned in the eyes of the states' courts either.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
80. Was "Schneiderman" ever spelled correctly even once in this 'article'?
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:33 AM
Dec 2017

I see at least 2 other spellings, both wrong ... which makes it kinda hard to take it seriously IMHO.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
81. I don't care about that. My opinion is not based on this meme,
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 06:24 AM
Dec 2017

with or without spelling and/or grammatical errors, but on the actual words of Eric Schneiderman. Did you read my initial post? Did you look at the article I linked?

citizen blues

(570 posts)
47. Two prior pieces of information
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:38 PM
Dec 2017

1) It came out several months ago that Mueller was coordinating with NY prosecutors, and that state charges were likely to be filed first. If federal charges are brought and Trump pardons, then state charges cannot be filed for the same crimes because it would be double jeopardy. However, if state charges were filed first, Trump could do nothing about it because his pardon authority is at the federal level only.

2) One of the first people who Mueller brought on his team was the prosecutor who brought down the Gambino and Gotti crime families. Looks like Mueller has been approaching the investigation the same way as he would going after any other big name crime family.

Of course, this means that even if Mueller is fired, the Trump and Kushner families, among others, will still be left in financial ruin. Firing Mueller won’t stop that. Then what would be left to do is the mopping up the political side with charges like conspiracy against the United States, obstruction of justice, and sedition. And that could encompass most of the GOP.

x1959b

(16 posts)
68. republicans
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:27 PM
Dec 2017

they all cashed out. they hopin for the base and a little luck. I think we should go the Bama route.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
67. They can set up a GoFundMe account to try and raise the billion dollars
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:11 PM
Dec 2017

to pay off their creditors so they won't have to sleep with the fishes.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
53. I've thought this
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 04:37 PM
Dec 2017

for a long time.

Satisfying as it would be to nail them on collusion/treason, everyone knows the Repubs would do nothing about it except spin, lie, deny and say so what?

They're going to get him where it hurts and where they can make it stick. Financial crimes.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
54. Civil Rico or criminal Rico?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:16 PM
Dec 2017

A president can’t be indicted. That makes me think it is civil Rico. However IIRc the mob families were brought down by criminal Rico.

rock

(13,218 posts)
58. This sounds like a plausible scenario
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:53 PM
Dec 2017

But the important thing is not that this is just a plausible scenario but that plausible scenarios exist and one may be true.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
61. Please, please, let it be true...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:20 PM
Dec 2017

If this happens, as explained above, my belief in the justice system, and that of many will surely be restored.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
69. omg oh please oh please .....
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:29 PM
Dec 2017

Like....no possible better outcome unless followed by an omarosa inspired frog march

lutherj

(2,496 posts)
70. One fly in the ointment. A sitting president can't be indicted, only
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:32 PM
Dec 2017

impeached. Only once he's out of office could he be indicted. What would Trump do if he were counting down the days until he's out on the street and vulnerable?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
75. That makes almost no sense.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:25 AM
Dec 2017

Who exactly wrote this? What is that person's first language? Not English, so far as that paragraph indicates.

This partial sentence in particular makes zero sense:

state attorney were Scheiderman will file RICO charges against Trump based on 2 predicates of RICO.


sprinkleeninow

(20,249 posts)
77. There is a Christmas Carol nicely sung by the kiddos at Kings College, U.K.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:04 AM
Dec 2017

"Ding Dong Merrily On High".

I change part of the lyrics to reflect
His Most Excellence, Robert Mueller:
"Ding Dong STEALTHILY On High".

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
79. This would be great but how does this guy know? Mueller doesn't leak.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:30 AM
Dec 2017

It must be speculation.
I assumed something like this could be a backup plan if Mueller is fired.
It sounds a lot better than letting Congress make the final decision.

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