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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:37 AM Dec 2017

Jill Stein is on MSNBC lying through her teeth about Russia.

She is claiming that Vladdy and his goons just happened to drop in late in their dinner, unexpectedly. But...in the picture, Vlad and his goons all have their own place settings and the table is perfectly spaced for each diner. Bullshit that he happened by unexpectedly. She's also claiming RT is no different than BBC or Canadian television. She is rabidly defending Russia and RT.

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Jill Stein is on MSNBC lying through her teeth about Russia. (Original Post) Atman Dec 2017 OP
She deserves NO AIRTIME! FarPoint Dec 2017 #1
Im all for shining the light on that roach RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #16
I never understood why she had so much support from "intellectual" liberals. maddiemom Dec 2017 #28
Yeah really. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #38
She's like an Orly Taitz. R B Garr Dec 2017 #42
Russian agent Stein... IluvPitties Dec 2017 #2
She sounds incoherent. madaboutharry Dec 2017 #3
She's a cornered rat, fully in touch with reality. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #9
She's a lying liar who lies. yardwork Dec 2017 #4
You know she is lying if her mouth is moving. Joe941 Dec 2017 #6
I still can't believe... Joe941 Dec 2017 #5
I thought they were his body guards DUgosh Dec 2017 #7
It was a totally ridiculous interview. Steph was not at her best. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #8
Steph Ruhle's background is in finance... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #21
She was interviewing somebody who probably committed treason. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #24
She is much better with Ali Velshi. Atman Dec 2017 #35
Yes, I do too radical noodle Dec 2017 #46
Useful idiot is not a very good liar dalton99a Dec 2017 #10
Suck it up Stein -- you've been caught, own it girl. ATL Ebony Dec 2017 #11
yup.. she needs to own her fuckery. JHan Dec 2017 #43
Saw that too. Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #12
Thankfully she has little credibility. n/t CousinIT Dec 2017 #13
she's so screwed Javaman Dec 2017 #14
Don't worry MFM008 Dec 2017 #15
Didn't hear the interview but . . . peggysue2 Dec 2017 #17
I wonder if any Dems regretted their donations to her vote recount project pnwmom Dec 2017 #18
I cant help it..... Maggiemayhem Dec 2017 #19
K&R. Traitor. She did it for ego and greed. I hope she goes down. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #20
I think she helped sway democrat votes away from Hillary. lancelyons Dec 2017 #22
Her own defense is outing her! colorado_ufo Dec 2017 #23
She's arguing in gaps. Igel Dec 2017 #25
Interesting! leftstreet Dec 2017 #27
I, too, never notices the empty plate. Atman Dec 2017 #37
So Vlad just happen to find himself at a table BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #41
OK mcar Dec 2017 #48
Susan Sarandon types . stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #26
OK class: old guy Dec 2017 #29
I find it curious that she has been given airtime on every network spewing her bullshit. Who in the still_one Dec 2017 #30
Jill Stein no longer has any effect on anything yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #31
I can't begin to describe how intensely I despise this woman. I hope liberals have seen the error... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #32
Steom was clearly lying during that interview Gothmog Dec 2017 #33
she should have said elmac Dec 2017 #34
Once again, they're not even good liars.. paleotn Dec 2017 #36
Who ya gonna believe: me or your lying eyes? By the way, send money for a recount... Hekate Dec 2017 #39
Why is MSNBC having a Russian agent on their air to spread propaganda? nt Maven Dec 2017 #40
She has exposed herself with her own words. Not one single word R B Garr Dec 2017 #44
Presidential bids JeaneRaye Dec 2017 #45
She needs to be attacked every time. Identified as a Putin lackey. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #47
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
16. Im all for shining the light on that roach
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:45 AM
Dec 2017

A lot of people hear about her and aren’t sure who she is, but to actually listen to this con woman talk is something to behold.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
28. I never understood why she had so much support from "intellectual" liberals.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:30 PM
Dec 2017

Then I heard her on TV for the first time and completely and intensely disliked her.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
38. Yeah really.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:56 PM
Dec 2017

I am surprised that she is even on any major network. I consider Stein to be a crank not much different from Alex Jones. But this era seems to be a springtime for cranks so I guess this is to be expected.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
5. I still can't believe...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:43 AM
Dec 2017

so many here were sending money to support her when she was calling for a recount after the presidential election. Totally scammed and a waste of money that is probably going to be used against us again at some point.

DUgosh

(3,056 posts)
7. I thought they were his body guards
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:43 AM
Dec 2017

“I didn’t know they were his (Putin’s ) inner circle. There was no interpreter, no introductions, I only spoke to the German ambassador next to me.” (If the German ambassador spoke English, he also understands Russian, geese Jill some of us have been abroad and we know this about Europe”)

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. It was a totally ridiculous interview. Steph was not at her best.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

Stein is clearly a traitor, yet tried to blame the DNC for literally everything.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
21. Steph Ruhle's background is in finance...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:59 AM
Dec 2017

she has her weak points in political interviews. I happen to think she's getting better.

I love her pitbull attitude when she talks taxes and financials, though.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
24. She was interviewing somebody who probably committed treason.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:22 PM
Dec 2017

That interview was NOT about finance. Shame on MSNBC for letting her do that interview.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
35. She is much better with Ali Velshi.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:46 PM
Dec 2017

But they're both in finance. They aren't strong in politics. This would have been a better interview with someone like Rachel Maddow. But no righty would ever dare sit down with Maddow.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
12. Saw that too.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:28 AM
Dec 2017

How anyone can claim that RT is anything other than the propaganda machine for Putin is crazy.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
14. she's so screwed
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:40 AM
Dec 2017

and I believe she knows it.

I also believe that she thinks that more face time equals being innocent in the public's eyes.

she was never one with a lack of ego.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
17. Didn't hear the interview but . . .
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:57 AM
Dec 2017

but read a summary. Sounded as if she's claiming the Clinton campaign deliberately dragged her into all this, an act of revenge for siphoning so many votes from HRC and giving the Trumpster his electoral college win.

I's innocent, I tell you. I's innocent.

And that picture of Stein at Pooty's table? Don't believe your lying eyes.

Magnifient defense! Dare I say . . . exquisite?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. I wonder if any Dems regretted their donations to her vote recount project
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:57 AM
Dec 2017

that she knew before the initiative was even started could never overturn the results of the election (and appeared to validate the election).

(By the time she filed it was too late to get an automatic recount in at least one of the states and the judge denied her subsequent petition.)

She was able to keep millions of the dollars she raised under false pretenses and put them toward future "voter integrity" projects.

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
19. I cant help it.....
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

I truly despise Jill Stein. There is nothing green about colluding with oil oligarchs to overthrow our democracy or what’s left of it .

Igel

(35,317 posts)
25. She's arguing in gaps.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:23 PM
Dec 2017

RT is, at times, no different from the BBC. If there's no government edit on how to cover hardwood usage by China in Indonesia, it's just another government-supported media source. The problem with government-run media isn't that everything they say is controlled, but that some is and you can't tell the difference.

That's a really hard point for some people to get. In disinformation, not everything presented is false. So something can be planted and be 95% true. "Confidence building" is another way of saying "promoting self-deception".


Now, I've seen the photo being talked about, but I didn't notice the details necessary to support or disconfirm what she's said. I've been to invited dinners that were catered by some other group. Receptions of various kinds, meetings for administrators or when UC regents were in town. UCLA Alumni events. I've sat down at nice tables all arranged, with place settings for 4 or 6 or 8. Sometimes the table was full. Sometimes, there were empty place settings because not everybody showed up. And not everybody shows up on time or there isn't staff to clear the tables of unused place settings. Moreover, nobody's tied to a seat, so people did get up and move around. Spend the main course with one table, shift elsewhere for dessert (because few people will be showing up that late).

So if you look at the table--it's hard to see much of anything concerning some plates--you notice the following. (?1479834100)

Putin's plate is clean, as far as I can see. Food's been served. There might be a water glass in front of him. Or not--hard to make out perspective. It might have been there, waiting; he might have asked for it; he might have brought it. Behind him at a nearby table there are empty chairs in front of place settings containing food that's been served. Stein's eaten at least part of her food, so while it's possible that we're just seeing the part of Putin's plate that he didn't put food on, it's also possible that Putin either moved seats or declined that course, with no way of being sure which of the three options he did just based on that still photo.

Again, though, this is all less "Putin interfered" and more "this is why we didn't win" talk.

As for why he was at that table, maybe he just wanted to have a picture of him taken with Stein to provoke this kind of theory. Or perhaps she was irrelevant.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
27. Interesting!
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

I've seen that photo posted a million times - never looked at the plates, chairs, etc

Atman

(31,464 posts)
37. I, too, never notices the empty plate.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:53 PM
Dec 2017

But they did seem to have a place set for him. Right next to Flynn.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
41. So Vlad just happen to find himself at a table
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:20 PM
Dec 2017

Where there are two loud mouthed political figures working hard to bring Hillary down. That's the "better" excuse Stien is trying to postulate? What was wrong with the empty seats at the table right behind them?

still_one

(92,216 posts)
30. I find it curious that she has been given airtime on every network spewing her bullshit. Who in the
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:37 PM
Dec 2017

hell is Jill Stein that she deserves this kind of coverage.

The only thing that made her news worthy was the Ponzi scheme she concocted to con some to believe the LIE that there was no difference between republicans and Democrats.

Well, that is history now, and folks if they didn't realize it before, realize it now, Jill Stein is an insignificant LIAR, and just as many are turning their backs on people like betsy devos when she speaks at various schools, it is time for us to do the same with Stein.


yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
31. Jill Stein no longer has any effect on anything
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:38 PM
Dec 2017

She is not a politician with any power, and is maybe hoping to get elected again, but people will know better and vote against Trump, and against her better interests. She never had a chance to win and therefore will always be a loser in more ways than one.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
32. I can't begin to describe how intensely I despise this woman. I hope liberals have seen the error...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:39 PM
Dec 2017

of their ways. I'm just wondering what she got in return for helping Putin chip away at our democracy.

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
33. Steom was clearly lying during that interview
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:43 PM
Dec 2017

I watched enough of the interview to see that she is nervous

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
36. Once again, they're not even good liars..
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:47 PM
Dec 2017

Just like her comrades in the current admin. Green party my ass. The quack doctor is a tool just as shit gibbon and his idiot sons, brexit assholes, and Polish / Austrian / German Neo-Fascists. ie. she's scum and I wouldn't piss on her if she were on fire.

Hekate

(90,713 posts)
39. Who ya gonna believe: me or your lying eyes? By the way, send money for a recount...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:07 PM
Dec 2017

Jill Stein has been bought and paid for.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
44. She has exposed herself with her own words. Not one single word
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:30 PM
Dec 2017

ever about how bad the GOP is. Only vague gripes about Democrats that she is never challenged over, which fits her situation perfectly. Just play spoiler. She is a total fraud, the perfect hack for Russia.

JeaneRaye

(402 posts)
45. Presidential bids
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:33 PM
Dec 2017

Every four years, Jill Stein comes along and rears her ugly head to run for President of the United States. She does nothing in the meantime to promote her party. Maybe this is the end of Jill Stein's Presidential bids. She is finally being exposed for the self serving person that she is.

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