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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:08 AM Dec 2017

It Has Long Been the Goal of Conservatives to Shut Down the UN

The Jerusalem vote may well be the cause of a new resurgence of that idea. Trump would gladly go along with such an effort, I'm sure.

Once again, having Republicans in control of all three branches of government may well lead to consequences most people didn't expect.

More's the pity.

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It Has Long Been the Goal of Conservatives to Shut Down the UN (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2017 OP
They are afraid of a globalist boogeyman. In a perfect world, Canada and US could join the EU member12 Dec 2017 #1
It's not Putin's goal. Aristus Dec 2017 #2
I'm talking about US conservatives. MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
Wasn't 2naSalit Dec 2017 #8
Yes. Old man Koch was an original founder of the John Birch Society MineralMan Dec 2017 #10
Indeed 2naSalit Dec 2017 #12
Former Senator Jesse Helms is dancing in the graveyard. nt DURHAM D Dec 2017 #3
Would not surprise me as Trump works to sink the US under Putin's command. Give Trump some RKP5637 Dec 2017 #4
since it began. nt Javaman Dec 2017 #6
"US out of UN" DBoon Dec 2017 #7
The Right Wing is very patient. MineralMan Dec 2017 #9
Bottomline: "We were too busy fighting among ourselves. We had better listen now." K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Dec 2017 #11
 

member12

(81 posts)
1. They are afraid of a globalist boogeyman. In a perfect world, Canada and US could join the EU
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:10 AM
Dec 2017

And coordinate immigration and economic policy with other successful nations.

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
2. It's not Putin's goal.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:10 AM
Dec 2017

But if the US withdrew from the UN, Security Council and all, Putin would rejoice.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. I'm talking about US conservatives.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:13 AM
Dec 2017

As far back as the 1960s, ultra-conservative groups like the John Birch Society have called for the disbandment of the UN. Those calls have never ended, and continue today. It's not a matter of what Putin would like, frankly. It's just an insane notion the far right has held for decades.

With Trump in office and with Republicans in control of both houses of Congress, it could finally happen. It would be a disaster.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
8. Wasn't
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:21 AM
Dec 2017

the JBS started by daddyKoch? Since his foul offspring are so prominent, I can see they have been pushing that agenda all along and putting a lot of $$ into it for decades.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Yes. Old man Koch was an original founder of the John Birch Society
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:25 AM
Dec 2017
In 1958, Koch became a founding member of the John Birch Society, an American political advocacy group that opposes communist infiltration and supports limited government.[13][22][30] Koch held John Birch Society chapter meetings in the basement of his family's home in Wichita, Kansas.[27]:49[31]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch

His lead has been followed by the sons. We are reaping the fruits from trees planted during the cold war.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
4. Would not surprise me as Trump works to sink the US under Putin's command. Give Trump some
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:12 AM
Dec 2017

more time as the worldview of the US sinks/fades into the sunset. The new world leader is China, not the US. The US had a good run of it after WWII, big dog in the arena, but now that is history. Trump, is marching along to his orders as a Russian agent IMO!
Eventually, it will be the world against the US with Trump at the helm.



DBoon

(22,366 posts)
7. "US out of UN"
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:19 AM
Dec 2017

I remember that on bus bench advertising, along with "Impeach Earl Warren"

The John Birch Society was considered a fringe group. Their ideological descendents now run the federal government

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. The Right Wing is very patient.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:22 AM
Dec 2017

That patience is paying off now. Most people have no idea of what has really happened. We get another chance to correct this. One. More. Chance. We had better take that chance and run with it, or we won't have another.

We were warned about having the right in control of the entire federal government, but we didn't listen, apparently. We were too busy fighting among ourselves. We had better listen now.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
11. Bottomline: "We were too busy fighting among ourselves. We had better listen now." K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:27 AM
Dec 2017
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