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CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:28 AM Dec 2017

Emailed Republican Brother these three articles. . . see what he responded with.

Last edited Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)

He's retired and living on Social Security and Medicare (current retirees likely unaffected by drastic cuts coming - all of the future retirees (me) will be screwed out of our retirement and healthcare) - his house is paid off. His car is paid off. He pays little to no taxes since he has no taxable income. My poor Democratic mother has lived with the ornery coot for years and she pays him room/board monthly. And she buys his groceries, cooks for him and cleans his house and does his laundry. He made more money than anyone else in the family when he was working and all that time with no house payments and collecting hundreds/month from his mother while paying few expenses (insurance, utilities, a little bit food but she bought most of it). He refused to repair his house unless he absolutely had to and drives his cars until they're completely dead. He's miserly, ornery, abusive, and selfish. IOW, he doesn't give a flying FUCK what the GOP does to taxes or Social Security or Medicare since it doesn't affect HIM. He's stockpiled and invested quite a wad and is living on that "socialism" Republicans hate so much but oddly never return the checks to the US treasury when they get them.

HE refused to vote for Hillary because, he said, he was "not going to vote for no feminism"

Yep. He's a lost cause. But regardless - in case there was ANYTHING in the man's head besides vacuum-packed hatred (even a molecule of light), I emailed him these three articles:

'It just seems wrong.' GOP rep admits tax scam he voted for rips off working people
https://shareblue.com/it-just-seems-wrong-gop-rep-admits-tax-scam-he-voted-for-rips-off-working-people/

USAToday: Tax cut fever: "Republican trickle-down theory is lies" (says man who helped write it)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/09/27/tax-cut-fever-republican-supply-side-theory-hogwash-bruce-bartlett-column/704464001/

Dire poverty in US to worsen under Trump, threatening democracy, top UN official says
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-poverty/dire-poverty-in-us-to-worsen-under-trump-threatening-democracy-top-un-official-says-idUSKBN1E92TF

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He replied with THIS:

The Roswell UFO Crash
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/11/1578699/-The-Roswell-UFO-Crash

What he meant was mockery. What he meant was minimization of the facts and concerns others in his country have. He could have just replied with two words: "fake news" -- though I doubt the UN is in the business of distributing propaganda for the Republican or Democratic parties -- and there is actual video of the Republican saying he felt bad about the tax scam and how unfair it is to working people but that he would vote for it anyway --- and that article about how Republican trickle-down theory is lies -- IS WRITTEN by Bruce Bartlette -- one of the creators of "trickle-down" back in the 1970s - 1980s. It's ALL. FACT. It ALL. HAPPENED. It's ALL. THE. TRUTH. It's ALL. REAL.

And what does The Republican send back in response? An article about UFOs. To mock. To minimize. To insinuate that none of what I sent has any more credibility than UFO stories. And even if it does, he doesn't give a fuck.

Typical Republican. I hope to God I don't lose all my Social Security before I get to retire (as he has voted for just that to happen). Because I want to stay AS FAR AWAY from this vile person as possible for the rest of my life. I'm on the other side of the country. And I want to stay on the other side of the country. I'll need a little retirement to do that. Like others, I've done all I'm supposed to - save as much as I can, have some investments, and hopefully will have something left of social security (the three financial legs of retirement). Millions like me -- who have DONE THEIR PART - DONE ALL THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO to ensure a secure retirement -- to NOW HAVE ALL THAT TAKEN FROM THEM by "men" like my brother, Trump, the Kochs - TO HAVE THEIR FUTURES STOLEN FROM THEM so billionaires and big corporations can have HUGE UNNECESSARY TAX CUTS - is the HEIGHT of GREED and of EVIL.

I want NO PART OF IT or anyone who contributed to it. My OWN BROTHER voted to let ROBBER BARONS STEAL MY FUTURE FROM ME. And when I point that out to him, he sends me UFO stories. That's how much he cares. Why the hell would I want to have anything to do with human garbage like him? I don't. And I hope to GOD I never have to.


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Emailed Republican Brother these three articles. . . see what he responded with. (Original Post) CousinIT Dec 2017 OP
He charges your mother rent while she WORKS for him? TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #1
He's asked her not to. She does it anyway. CousinIT Dec 2017 #6
Newsflash MFM008 Dec 2017 #2
I believe you. But regardless, the article he sent in response to my email was meant as mockery. n/t CousinIT Dec 2017 #3
I know MFM008 Dec 2017 #7
"miserly, ornery, abusive, and selfish" dalton99a Dec 2017 #4
I am so sorry. It's the worst when it is our own family that inflicts the pain. FM123 Dec 2017 #5
They don't give a damn. It's the old "I got MY social security, fuck you" attitude. CousinIT Dec 2017 #9
And this is why I cut off people who voted for and still defened this crap nini Dec 2017 #8
Im surprised you are STILL trying ghostsinthemachine Dec 2017 #10
Not anymore. All of my energy has to be put into staying financially independent so I can retire CousinIT Dec 2017 #11
If he thinks his SS/Medicare/tax situation is secure, you can start undermining that security very Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #13
Nah, fuck him ghostsinthemachine Dec 2017 #14
Much better idea....so happy my sibs are actual sentient,sensitive souls Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #15
I also had an awful, abusive sibling Merlot Dec 2017 #12
I can assure you he's not worth your energy. Corvo Bianco Dec 2017 #16
He is absolutely not. I'm DONE. n/t CousinIT Dec 2017 #17
This is the biggest problem, bigger than AmericanActivist Dec 2017 #18

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
6. He's asked her not to. She does it anyway.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:10 PM
Dec 2017

She's got COPD and AMD and I think she does it partially because she can't do much else and wants to stay active. He's told her she doesn't need to cook or clean -- however then she has to live in "batchelor" (not-so) clean house and she can't stand it. So she does what she can. It's not expected or required or asked of her.

IMO he should give her rent checks back to her or halve the amount she pays, but he doesn't.

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
2. Newsflash
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:39 AM
Dec 2017

My dad was USAF from 1948 to 1973. Worked in the Pentagon had access to top secret info in the day. Always had an unusual interest in Roswell in particular.
Never spoke of it directly but I knew him well enough to know there was something about Roswell........

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
3. I believe you. But regardless, the article he sent in response to my email was meant as mockery. n/t
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:06 PM
Dec 2017

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
9. They don't give a damn. It's the old "I got MY social security, fuck you" attitude.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:14 PM
Dec 2017

My sister votes Republican too.

SHE. VOTES. FOR. HER. OWN. KIDS. AND. GRANDKIDS. TO. BE. UNABLE. TO. RETIRE. She votes to have their social security STOLEN from them by billionaires.

WHO DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEIR OWN KIDS? OR their own biological sisters and brothers?

Republicans. That's who.

REPUBLICANS.

I just can't with it. It does not compute. But I'm not a Republican (aka sociopath). My amygdala is fully operative - so I cannot think that way.

nini

(16,672 posts)
8. And this is why I cut off people who voted for and still defened this crap
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:14 PM
Dec 2017

Family included. Their approval is an assault on my well being and all of us who live here. I will have nothing to do with them anymore - they are vile human beings and the enemy at this point.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
10. Im surprised you are STILL trying
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:18 PM
Dec 2017

I gave up that email exchange long ago with my Republican friends and family.
I booted em off Facebook, years ago. When I add friends I have a disclaimer about myself, beliefs etc, warning those from the right who I am and how to stay.
The last straw for me was during the election season I was at my local c offee shop. Us old geezers have been hanging here since the seventies. Old locals. Mixed politics, from people who "let slip" the N word, to me, a hippie stoner on SSI. We generally didnt talk politics, we were good at avoidance. But the primary to election season brought it out. The right could not stop talking. Chicago. EMails, benghazi, the uranium one etc. One day immigration came up. "We need to vet immigrants, especially refugees"
.My response was "uh, we do"
He went on to tell myself, and the table about how if you want to be a refugee and come to the US is make the boat. Or something about the ease to immigrate. Never mind the lack of logic that says a religious Refugee getting away from a Hardline religious geology would become terrorists in this country. I asked him what are you saying do you think Obama's is standing it's a Statue of Liberty waving people into this country without background checks he said yes. Hey had this argument frequently so I had the immigration website open. INS website. The one that says exactly how hard it is to become a refugee to this country. It takes 2 years. Your background is checked. Your religious connections and friends are checked. I offered to show him the website but he refused. He told me that despite what it said on the immigrations official website, Obama was letting people into this country without following the process.

That was it. I just dont deal anymore. When hes there, I stay away or sit somewhere else, and the same goes for those like him. Not worth it.

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
11. Not anymore. All of my energy has to be put into staying financially independent so I can retire
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:21 PM
Dec 2017

and stay AWAY from the dirtbag and others like him.

We have to save ourselves from the robber barons.

AGAIN.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. If he thinks his SS/Medicare/tax situation is secure, you can start undermining that security very
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

easily

They want everything

Everybody’s money

They want it all

Nothing short of neofeudalism

Work him that way

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. Much better idea....so happy my sibs are actual sentient,sensitive souls
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:44 PM
Dec 2017

They, on the other hand, are stuck wit me

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
12. I also had an awful, abusive sibling
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:26 PM
Dec 2017

If the lips were moving chances were more than 80% that they were lying.

It's weird being related to someone like that, and staying as far away as possible is the only answer. For a long time I had the same worries as you do about not having enough for retirement, and what that might mean. Now that I've cut off contact completely I know I'll be ok, and it's better this way.

My motto was always "a bad day without them is better than a good day with them."

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
18. This is the biggest problem, bigger than
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:38 PM
Dec 2017

corrupt, broken government which is gigantic! These people, tRump supporters cannot be reasoned with nor can they think critically or question authority. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

I feel for you in this situation with your relative; frustrating, maddening, infuriating, heartbreaking...

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