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marble falls

(57,097 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:27 PM Dec 2017

Coroner releases grim report on Vegas massacre

https://nypost.com/2017/12/22/coroner-releases-grim-report-on-vegas-massacre/

Las Vegas killer Stephen Paddock ...(killed himself immediately)... after he slaughtered 58 people in the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history, according to a coroner’s report.

According to Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg, none of the victims killed at an outdoor concert Oct. 1 was trampled to death while trying to escape the festival grounds.

Some survivors have described receiving injuries other than gunfire during their escapes.

Most of those killed died from a single gunshot wound, according to the coroner’s office. Four victims sustained multiple gunshot wounds.

Twenty-one people were shot in the head, 36 died with chest and back wounds and one <snip> died of a gunshot to the leg, according to a chart the coroner released.

<snip>

Officials have said more than 500 people were injured when Paddock, 64, a high-stakes video poker gambler, sprayed gunfire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel into a crowd of 22,000 people at the Route 91 Harvest Festival below.

When police stormed Paddock’s suite after he stopped firing, they discovered shell casings all over the floor.

“My initial scan, coming in the room with my rifle, is just seeing, I’m seeing one male down, bleeding from the face,” said Officer Matthew Donaldson. “He was not a threat. Kept going, kept going, kept going.”

Federal and local authorities have not said publicly what they think motivated Paddock to amass an arsenal of assault-style weapons and ammo.

With Post wires


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ProfessorGAC

(65,058 posts)
1. When This First Happened. . .
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:35 PM
Dec 2017

. . .i read reports that some people were hit by bullets that actually went through someone else first. This article didn't mention that though, so that might have been speculation in the heat of the event.

tenderfoot

(8,437 posts)
4. There's a grisly photo of the aftermath
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:18 PM
Dec 2017

I won't post it but you can see several PILES of people on top one another splayed about the area. Very disturbing.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Lack of sensible gun laws is America's shame, paid for by blood and terror. One bullet killed
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:07 PM
Dec 2017

the majority. How is a gun NOT a WMD???

Gunners, your mic.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
10. Title 18 U.S.C. 2332a
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017


Definition of WMD
Title 18 U.S.C. §2332a defines weapons of mass destruction (WMD) as:

Any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas, including the following: a bomb; grenade; rocket having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than four ounces; missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce; mine; or device similar to any of the previously described devices;
Any weapons that is designed or intend to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
Any weapon involving a disease organism; and
Any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life.


https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/wmd

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
18. You asked, "How is a gun NOT a WMD???"
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:58 PM
Dec 2017

And I provided you with the legal definition of a WMD which clearly doesn't include guns.

That's so what.

Oh, you want to add guns to the list? Go ahead and write your congressperson. I'm sure they'll jump right on that.


Initech

(100,079 posts)
17. Not the time to talk about it!
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:52 PM
Dec 2017

We've lost an entire city's population to senseless gun violence since Sandy Hook, but it is not the time to talk about it!

spanone

(135,843 posts)
8. you can still buy the bump stocks.....remember them???
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:13 PM
Dec 2017

that's what allowed this to happen....the nra pretended they would be willing to support a ban....no such thing

onethatcares

(16,169 posts)
13. what's even nicer
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 04:38 PM
Dec 2017

silencers are now allowed for "hunting" rifles.

Is this a great country or what?????

I don't know whether to post the puke emoticon or the sarcasm one.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
6. It probably will happen tomorrow.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:01 PM
Dec 2017

Someone or more than one someone will get shot and killed. Maybe in a domestic dispute. Maybe in road rage incident. Maybe in several unrelated incidents.

And then it will happen the next day. A toddler will shoot his sister. A stray bullet will kill a teenager.

And then it will happen the next day. And the day after that.

One day soon, there will be another "big" one that no one could have possibly predicted, followed by thoughts and prayers, and murmurs of "it's too soon" and "don't politicize this."

jalan48

(13,869 posts)
7. Societal chaos is the Authoritarian's friend. People who are afraid are more easily manipulated.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:05 PM
Dec 2017

Lax gun laws serve a purpose in our country today.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
9. Of Course It Was Grim
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:43 PM
Dec 2017

We all knew that.

But there were several stories of people helping wounded strangers to the exits. Strong men helped other concert goers over the fence, not knowing if or when bullets would come their way. People driving by in cars picked up wounded people and took them to the hospital emergency because there weren't enough ambulances.

It was stories like the above that give me hope for humanity.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
14. FWIW the coroners office is under lock down
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 04:46 PM
Dec 2017

Because there are so many crazy Alex Jones motherfuckers either requesting reports for the 58 deceased, threatening the coroner’s office staff “for their coverup”, or both.

Even runners and paralegals aren’t allowed in the building anymore, not even the front desk.

Lawyers, and lawyers ONLY, have to show up with their bar card, photo ID, and proof of the legitimate case they’re working on, October 1st massacre-related or otherwise. They’ve stopped unlocking the door for everybody else.

One of the problems this has caused us with serving subpoenas, requests, etc., as not even the process servers are allowed in anymore. Too many crazies.

(I’m not sure about family members).

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