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imanamerican63

(13,798 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:06 PM Dec 2017

I have bad feeling about this up coming weekend!

I think Trump will do his best to have Mueller ousted while the Congress is on Christmas break? He will fire Rosenstein and possibly Sessions first and then he will find someone to the dirty work! After yesterday's ridiculous showing in front of the White House, Trump has all the Repugs where he wants them, in the palm of hands and they won't even bother to anything about the outcome of this! A Christmas gift for all the rich and a screwing the rest of America.

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I have bad feeling about this up coming weekend! (Original Post) imanamerican63 Dec 2017 OP
Ridiculous showing? Have you no love for the fatherland? Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #1
I have had a bad feeling every day since dotard was installed nt doc03 Dec 2017 #2
Teapain is a source on twitter saying after FBI met with trump team last night Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #3
signing early? bluestarone Dec 2017 #5
he signed it this morning Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #6
Ari Melber on MSNBC is reporting that there is an spooky3 Dec 2017 #4
Also about how our DOJ now is at war with non whites. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #9
Emergency plan for what purpose? virgogal Dec 2017 #16
it was a scroll at the bottom of the screen. I think he was referring either to (a) a spooky3 Dec 2017 #17
Thanks. virgogal Dec 2017 #21
If he's going to do it, it'll be Sunday 12/24 or 12/31. CincyDem Dec 2017 #7
What does it even matter if half the country wants a traitor in the WH? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #10
HaHa. He wishes he could. Mueller isn't taking a vacation when Congress leaves town. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #8
I hoping Mueller has a doomsday bomb that will detonate if he is fired. Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #11
Hard to tell with such a man like Trump but he has to know the consequences will be PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #12
He has to fire Rosenstein and replace him with someone who will fire Mueller DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #13
Whoever Cheeto appoints as Rosenstein's replacement FakeNoose Dec 2017 #18
No, none of what you said will happen. n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #14
The only way I can see him firing Mueller is if he's certain Mueller will indict him ... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #15
Didn't people say this about Comey? uponit7771 Dec 2017 #20
There are protests planned across the country if Trump fires Mueller. Link attached. TomSlick Dec 2017 #19
Still waiting! USALiberal Dec 2017 #22

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. Teapain is a source on twitter saying after FBI met with trump team last night
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:10 PM
Dec 2017

his lawyers could be heard yelling at each other.

No letter of exoneration given...

This might be why trump signed bill in no frills and quickly, afraid to take questions plus sign it before you are indicted?

Could be.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
4. Ari Melber on MSNBC is reporting that there is an
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:10 PM
Dec 2017

Emergency plan in place in the event there is an attempt to fire Mueller.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
17. it was a scroll at the bottom of the screen. I think he was referring either to (a) a
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:25 PM
Dec 2017

plan on the part of the FBI or the Dems, that the public has not yet been informed about; or (b) the MoveOn.org's organizing emergency protest rallies if Mueller is fired. Maybe someone who caught all of Ari's show has more info; unfortunately, I don't.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
7. If he's going to do it, it'll be Sunday 12/24 or 12/31.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:15 PM
Dec 2017

I'm sure he's aware of all the planned response protests and he's going to use the holiday to depress the participation.

If we get into the new year without a move, sessions or rosenstein gets replaced and the new guy in town leaves mueller in place but quietly pours sugar in his gas tank at every turn. In the workplace, it's akin to constructive dismissal...when you don't fire someone but squeeze them to the point of quitting. I don't expect mueller would ever quit but he'll get squeezed.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
10. What does it even matter if half the country wants a traitor in the WH?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:19 PM
Dec 2017

I am wondering what we have a stomach for with these fucking traitors.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
11. I hoping Mueller has a doomsday bomb that will detonate if he is fired.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:33 PM
Dec 2017

Something that Trump can never wiggle his way out of that will insure he spends the rest of his life in jail.

I'm hoping.

Maybe I'm just being too optimistic, but I'm still hoping.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. He has to fire Rosenstein and replace him with someone who will fire Mueller
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:40 PM
Dec 2017

The special counsel can only be fired for cause:

4. Removal of Special Counsel and Termination of Investigations

Section 600.7 has two provisions on redressing misconduct by special counsel. Section 600.7(c) addresses substantive and procedural issues regarding discipline. First, substantively, regarding the norms of conduct, “Special Counsel and staff shall be subject to disciplinary action for misconduct and breach of ethical duties under the same standards and to the same extent as are other employees of the Department of Justice.” “Inquiries” into disciplinary matters shall be handled by “the appropriate offices of the Department,” with the caveat that those inquiries be “upon the approval of the Attorney General.”


https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/attorney-generals-special-counsel-regulations/


The consensus is the special counsel can only be fired for cause. I have seen some gadfly attorneys like John Yoo argue Trump can go ahead and fire Mueller for whatever reason. What a pandora's box he would be opening. If he fires Mueller over Christmas world markets will tank when they reopen on Tuesday. The good economy is the only thing between a Trump approval rating of thirty five percent and a Trump approval rating in the high teens or twenties.

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
18. Whoever Cheeto appoints as Rosenstein's replacement
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:37 PM
Dec 2017

... may never be approved by Congress. Trump can't assume that any appointment will automatically be approved. Many of them have been rejected just in the last couple of weeks. This means he would have nobody in charge at Dept. of Justice. How could he take that chance?

There are many people in Congress (including Repukes) who are not going along with this. Trump is not getting a blank check, especially if he tries to fire Mueller or Rosenstein. Let's hope it's enough to keep this investigation going.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. The only way I can see him firing Mueller is if he's certain Mueller will indict him ...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:45 PM
Dec 2017

The only way I can see him firing Mueller is if he's certain Mueller will indict him or a member of his crime family.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
19. There are protests planned across the country if Trump fires Mueller. Link attached.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 10:21 PM
Dec 2017

Sign up, have your sign ready and show up if the trumpet sounds.

[link:https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/|

This is important - the Republic is at stake.

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