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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:00 PM Dec 2017

For the Millionth Time, President Trump, Clintons 33,000 Emails Were NOT 'Illegally Deleted'

by Rachel Stockman | 3:57 pm, December 23rd, 2017

Ah, just when we all thought we could get a little R&R over the long holiday weekend, President Donald Trump comes out swinging against Deputy Attorney General Andrew McCabe, who happens to oversee the Mueller probe into possible ties between the Trump campaign and the Russian government after Jeff Sessions recused himself. The latest attack on McCabe comes after today’s news that the DAG will likely retire early next year when his full pension benefits kick in.




In Trump’s tweet, he once again references the “33,000” illegally deleted emails. But, here’s the thing, the emails aren’t actually “missing” or “illegally deleted.” We know what happened to them. During congressional testimony, Comey said that there was no “intentional misconduct” as it related to the destruction of the emails by Hillary Clinton. Sure, it sounds sketchy. However, Comey provided this explanation:

…[W]e found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed.


As far as the backstory, it’s really not as suspicious as it seems. In 2014, the State Department realized that they had a gap in records, and asked Clinton, as well as other secretaries of state, to turn over any work-related emails that they may have. The lawyers doing the sorting for Clinton in 2014 did not read all of the individual emails. Instead, they did keyword searches to find ones that they were work-related.

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DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. I think it is ironic that Trump doesn't know shit about email.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:04 PM
Dec 2017

His secretary manages his email account and prints a hard copy of anything he needs to see. If there is a response she types it. As for deleting an email...he does not know how that is done.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Do Deplorables not have email? And delete crap or now expires messages regularily?
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:09 PM
Dec 2017

Company IT's universally request employees to delete their Deleted Box regularly. Tons of data storage otherwise used up for nothing.

Trumpsky know that but does not care. He is evil and so capable of any crime or lie.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth"...
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

Attributed to Lenin, Goebbels, maybe even Ben Franklin or Lincoln, or some ancient Greek.

Whoever said it first, it is still the truth.

Botany

(70,519 posts)
8. Joseph Goebbels
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:30 PM
Dec 2017

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

dalton99a

(81,526 posts)
9. The Big Lie technique - as explained by Hitler himself:
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:45 PM
Dec 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/trump-isnt-hitler-but-the-lying.html
Trump Isn’t Hitler. But the Lying …
Charles M. Blow OCT. 19, 2017

“In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.”

“It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”


As many have noted, no person of sound reason or even cursory political awareness can read this and not be immediately struck by how similar this strategy of lying is to Donald Trump’s seeming strategy of lying: Tell a lie bigger than people think a lie can be, thereby forcing their brains to seek truth in it, or vest some faith in it, even after no proof can be found.

Trump is no Hitler, but the way he has manipulated the American people with outrageous lies, stacked one on top of the other, has an eerie historical resonance. Demagogy has a fixed design.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. DOTUS has to keep up this pretense, feeding lies
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:54 PM
Dec 2017

to his gullible cult members who are fine with him shooting someone in Times Square.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
12. All Government agencies have "Records Retention Policies"
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 01:44 AM
Dec 2017

From the Federal Government down to the local water board or township zoning board. Every record is not expected to be kept or archived and electronic communications fall under the same policies. Things like contracts, agreements, meeting minutes are permanent records. Things like meeting notices or agendas are generally a year. Things like communication that Friday is casual day or there is a pot luck on Thursday can be discarded after the event has happened. A working budget can be discarded after the next draft, etc. etc. etc. The National Archives sets the policy for Federal Government and all agencies are expected to adhere to it. Not every scrap of paper or email is expected to be archived and each entity is expected to have an ethical and competent person or persons to determine what should be archived and what should be discarded.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
13. Speaking of "Records Retention Policies" Rachel Maddow did a show a couple of nights ago
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 03:00 AM
Dec 2017

where someone had requested information through the FOIA specifically requesting EPA's Agendas Items for Meetings to be held, Notes of Items discussed at Meetings, and I believe followup action to be done. The EPA came back with a response that they didn't have any Meeting Agendas, No Notes from Meetings, and No Followup items for the Entire Year. End of Story. These people are so corrupt it's pathetic. And the fact that they get away with this crap is frightening.

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