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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,155 posts)
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 03:05 PM Dec 2017

Rogue electors are undeterred by their latest legal setback

OLYMPIA — A year after they broke ranks with their party by not supporting Hillary Clinton for president, three Democratic electors continue fighting to prove they had every right to do what they did.

The trio took part in an unprecedented and unsuccessful campaign to deny Donald Trump a win in the Electoral College in 2016 by encouraging Republican electors to back another candidate for the nation’s highest office.

Trump had pretty much sewn up enough votes by the time Washington’s 12 Democratic electors gathered in the state Capitol on Dec. 19 to cast ballots for Clinton, who won the state’s popular vote. Each had signed a pledge to support the Democratic nominee when they were chosen by peers in their party to serve as electors.

But Bret Chiafalo, of Everett, Levi Guerra, of Warden, and Esther John, of Seattle, went rogue that day. They marked their ballots for Colin Powell, a Republican and former U.S. Secretary of State, whom they considered a better alternative to Trump to lead the country. Bob Satiacum, of the Puyallup Tribe, backed Faith Spotted Eagle, a Native American leader in South Dakota.

All four received $1,000 fines for violating a state law requiring electors keep their pledge. Chiafalo, Guerra and John appealed contending the “faithless elector” law is unconstitutional because it infringes on their free speech rights.

In March, an administrative law judge rejected their arguments. And Dec. 8 they suffered another setback when Thurston County Superior Court Judge Carol Murphy denied their claims.

http://www.heraldnet.com/news/rogue-electors-undeterred-by-latest-legal-setback/?utm_source=DAILY+HERALD&utm_campaign=3a96f3c1ec-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d81d073bb4-3a96f3c1ec-228635337

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Rogue electors are undeterred by their latest legal setback (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 OP
I am glad that these idiots were fined and that the fines were upheld Gothmog Dec 2017 #1
fuck them, shitty fuckers JI7 Dec 2017 #2
I hope their legal fees were far greater than their fines Generic Brad Dec 2017 #3
I hope I someday get to meet them GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #4
the underlying story here is...... Takket Dec 2017 #5
The electors who voted for Trump are pretty much murderers though. ck4829 Dec 2017 #6

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
3. I hope their legal fees were far greater than their fines
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 10:25 PM
Dec 2017

They were not exercising free speech. They were instead being unlawful pricks.

Takket

(21,611 posts)
5. the underlying story here is......
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 10:49 PM
Dec 2017

how fucking absurd the elector system is. this is pretty much the only public office on the planet where such a system is in place. it was stupid to begin with and now it is nothing more than ceremonial, which makes it stupid AND a complete waste of time and money.

ck4829

(35,082 posts)
6. The electors who voted for Trump are pretty much murderers though.
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 10:54 PM
Dec 2017

They have blood on their hands, like Heather Heyer's for example. They normalized this violence, they have a hand in it. And I bet they are OK with being Charles Manson wannabes.

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