Wolff Book: Trump Is 'Incapable of Functioning' in His Job, Can't Recognize Old Friends

[DonViejo]

In the second excerpt published from Michael Wolff’s new book, the journalist paints a portrait of a President Trump who is increasingly repeating stories, cannot recognize old friends, and is viewed by his closest allies as “incapable of functioning in his job.” The bombshell book, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, describes a scene where, at Mar-a-Lago, just before the new year, “a heavily made-up Trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends.” Wolff writes, “It used to be inside of 30 minutes he’d repeat, word-for-word and expression-for-expression, the same three stories—now it was within 10 minutes.” He added, “Indeed, many of his tweets were the product of his repetitions—he just couldn’t stop saying something.” Trump and former top strategist Steve Bannon traded public barbs Wednesday over the newly released contents of the book. Bannon, in his first comments since the excerpts were revealed, didn’t dispute the accuracy of his attributions in the book.

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[Siwsan]

1. What this excerpt describes is pretty much classic Dementia/Alzheimer's behavior

Even people who have not experienced dealing with this affliction, up close and person, can recognize these symptoms.

I have, and the alarm bells have been ringing for quite a while, now.

[janterry]

4. That MD who is going to evaluate Trump

Could do this country a great service by highlighting the need for a serious neurological evaluation. He could generate a very damning report - if he can gather together enough evidence.

[GusBob]

37. I am very much interested in how this medical evaluation goes

The physician has a few obligations. Foremost to the patient, if the man is sick he better offer testing and treatment. Secondly to the country, why goes without saying.

Also to the Dr. himself, if he is not thorough, dishonest or abrogates his duty in any way, he should lose his license. if he is in the VA system, he would lose his job either way for not following protocol

[lark]

58. We will never know.

Drumpf would not have a real physical, he just would never even come clean about his height and weight, so certainly will never let a real physician examine him and tell the truth or release the truth anyway that he is inn early stages of dementia and going down fast. If he does see a real physician it will be with a confidentiality agreement that the real results will never be released, all records destroyed, and dr. will just release a statement drawn up by drumpf or his lawyers saying he's in perfect health., lying about everything.

[iluvtennis]

66. +++Agree

[SCVDem]

108. Physical or Autopsy

Either way is fine with me!

[Dave Starsky]

136. They hid Kennedy's and Reagan's illnesses from us, too.

Those two always got a clean bill of health, despite having very serious, even life-threatening, health problems.

So I'm sure Donald will pass this one with flying colors. We will probably even be told that the KFC-by-the-bucket man has the anatomy and physiology of an Olympic athlete.

[lark]

138. Agree.

I can hear the BS now, all numbers are perfect, best health ever in a US president - for someone who's totally fat, eats a horrible diet and doesn't exercise except golf and then rides in a cart. Wonder if this one will be written better than the last one that drumpf obviously authored?

[getagrip_already]

63. He isn't just a doctor.....

He is a member of the military. He is a rear admiral.

Dr. Ronny Jackson, a rear admiral in the US Navy , will continue to serve as physician to the president, White House press secretary Sean Spicer told STAT. Jackson was appointed as the lead White House doctor by Obama in July 2013.

He has to follow orders. He can't just reveal anything he finds. He can't be forced to lie, but he can be ordered to...... It will be up to him what he does then.

[NYC Liberal]

74. He could release a statement saying "Here's a summary of the examination results

written by the president’s advisors." Let people read between the lines.

[GusBob]

89. If the exam is conducted to VA protocol....

The way VA electronic records have been explained to me, it is impossible to whitewash or scrub them. If something is entered into the record, it is impossible to remove. Conversely, if something is left out of a record that should be ( say a neurological evaluation ) it is flagged for review.

I may be wrong on this maybe we have a VA health care provider onboard

It is an interesting concept though, having to follow orders

[getagrip_already]

94. yeah, but remember, fdr and reagon also got regular checkups....

and fdr still managed to hide the open secret that he was in a wheelchair, and reagon that he was demented.

[Dave Starsky]

137. Kennedy had Addison's Disease...

And was addicted to pain meds.

We never heard about all that, either.

[oxbow]

90. Maybe someone can forward the article/book to this Dr.

He could use a heads up on what to look for. I’m sure DT and his handlers will try to minimize and hide any health deficits he is dealing with, especially those of the neurological variety...

[bdamomma]

57. this is basically going to be a physical

on him. But will this Dr. not be bullied by tRump to give him a glowing report. I hope not. tRump needs a full assessment in mental health or a mini mental status examination to test his cognitive/memory functions.

[SergeStorms]

114. Trump will never allow....

a Doctor he can't control examine him mentally or physically. Everyone saw Trump's pre-election "Doctor" in NYC give him a glowing health report. Trump is a heart attack or massive stroke waiting to happen. He eats poorly, is obese, gets no exercise (riding in a golf cart and playing golf is not exercise!) and - judging from his Twitter habits - doesn't get enough sleep. I sincerely doubt he'll ever see his 75th birthday. His family doesn't seem to care, or they'd have some sort of intervention or try love-shaming him into losing weight "for us".

My most fond wish is that he has a massive stroke, and spends the remainder of his life shitting his diapers, drooling down his numerous chins, and eating nothing but liquids forced down his throat. And does anyone think he'll have any visitors whatsoever? His family won't even visit, and when the time comes they'll have to hold a family lottery, just to see which lucky winner gets to pull his plug! The nursing care facility will have to have the electrical plugs welded into the outlets to keep "someone" from "accidentally" kicking the plugs from the outlets. Hey, accidents happen in the Trump family. Look at Eric!

I know I shouldn't wish ill health on people, but I hardly consider Donald Trump a "person" and - other than Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin and a few others - no one deserves it more than he.

[DetlefK]

6. I once knew a woman with dementia. She was just like that.

Clinging to a limited set of memories. Most of them from the past, but some recent. Over and over retelling the same story.

[lindysalsagal]

35. Yup. One default, closed, entrenched, redundent, and meaningless verbal loop, followed by the

full confidence their point of view cannot be questioned. But lacking anything of substance to back it up.

[Siwsan]

81. That's what we experienced with my mom

The memory lapses, repeated stories, sudden rages - we had to keep an eye on her at all times.

[delisen]

127. I assume your mother was not a con artist

was not suspected of having engaged in massive fraud and money laundering, and therefore had no motive for feigning dementia as a way to escape being brought to account for crimes.

It is easy to feign certain conditions.

In my own work with both dementia patients, con men, as well as people who have a habit of lying, I have found that feigning diminished capacity can be an effective tool to avoid responsibility. and that it is relatively easy, especially for an older person, to con people into thinking they are "not all there" mentally.

Almost everyone in the nation is familiar with symptom lists for dementia or has first hand experience in dealing with people who have dementia. A con man, such as Trump, uses that knowledge against us.

There is no legal requirement for a president to have an annual physical or to report the results to the American people. Trump administration announced in early December that Trump would have an annual physical in January.

If the con man Trump believes his best chance to undermine the special prosecutor's case and to escape consequences for wrongdoing is for he himself feign dementia and report that to us, he will do it.

[Siwsan]

130. Kind of a harsh topic line, since her death is still very fresh in my emotions

There are other ways to make a point.

And I don't think trump* is nearly smart enough to pull off something like this.

[delisen]

134. I apologize for offending you, especially when your sorrow

is so fresh. My phrasing was thoughtless.

Losing ones parent is such a great loss and I don't believe any of us ever really recover from it.

[Siwsan]

135. Thank you.

I lost my sister just 3 weeks before my mom. A one-two punch like that never fully processes.

[Zoonart]

12. Absolutely.

I went through this with my dad. All he talked about were old t imes, old slights,...the same stories over and over again.
I would call him on the phone every day and I could tell what kind of day it was going to be for him by how long I could keep him present in the conversation..talking about something like his beloved Yankees or even the weather. If he drifted off to story telling within the first two minutes, i knew it would be a very bad day filled with delusions, belligerence, and anger, none of which were personality traits prior to his descent into senile dementia.

It seems increasingly obvious 45 is suffering from dementia. He HAS TO GO! He is dangerous. My mother was afraid of my dad in those last month before he had a massive stroke and was confined to a wheelchair in the nursing home. He would grab her by the shoulders and shake her or push her to get past her if he was suddenly in a hurry. I have seen 45 push past people...I have seen him linger before descending the stairs of a plane, looking lost and off balance, knowing that those stairs will belie his lack of balance. I think this is why he is so sensitive to anyone seeing him golf... I don't think it's about his swing. I think it's about how he moves around the course. How feeble he looks getting in and out of the golf cart. Juts MHO.

[zipplewrath]

15. Many of us recognize it

We could all be wrong, arm chair diagnosis is a dangerous business. But he is showing so many signs of the early stages of dementia. The paranoia thing is also an indicator, although is surfacing earlier than it did in my father.

[cstanleytech]

30. Thats assuming he has not been suffering with it for the past few years and that the

people around him (mainly his children) have kept it hidden from the public as something like that could endanger the house of cards he has built with his real estate empire and his children do not want to end up on the side of the street owning nothing more than the clothes on their backs.

[zipplewrath]

34. Yes, it is

I know what you mean. The number of people he carried into his office from his personal life worries me. They are all folks that would be the types to "cover" for him. They are mostly melting away however. Ivanka and Jared are about the last two left. Once he starts having trouble with proper nouns, and forgetting names of his cabinet, it's going to get harder to ignore. Quite honestly, the person most likely to start to bring attention to this will be Pence. He has the most to gain and the least to lose. Many may already know and are just trying to make it to the 2018 elections. If it as bad as I suspect, they may not make it.

[delisen]

109. we are being "told" he is showing signs,

by anonymous sources in a book written by a person whose facts in previous writings have often been disputed.

Wolff's own intro should give pause

from the BBC:
How much credence can we lend the book?
NBC's political reporter posted an extract from Wolff's introduction, which addresses the inherent problem that a lot of stories coming from the White House conflict with one another:
"Many of the accounts of what has happened in the Trump White House are in conflict with one another; many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue. Those conflicts, and that looseness with the truth, if not with reality itself, are an elemental thread of the book. Sometimes I have let the players offer their versions, in turn allowing the reader to judge them. In other instances I have, through a consistency in accounts and through sources I have come to trust, settled on a version of events I believe to be true."

[zipplewrath]

116. Actually by many people

Including me. I've been saying for some time that he reminds me more and more each day of my fathers decent into dementia.

[delisen]

125. But you have no first hand knowledge, do you,

of Trump.

Trump is a successful propagandist. a successful con man. He is quite capable a feigning medical symptoms if it helps him avoid jail and loss of fortune.

[zipplewrath]

128. True

Although one could argue how skilled or "successful" he has been at very much. Lately, much of his "success" has come from Kushner leveraging his name.

[Hekate]

117. Psychiatrists are warning us that violence is next for DT; I hope he goes off on someone in the room

...as opposed to the whole planet.

In point of fact, DT has a record of domestic violence (graphic accusations in Ivana's divorce filing, later withdrawn). So let it just be one of the generals.

[zipplewrath]

129. More likely someone close to him

My father "went off" on my mother. It was the incident that allowed us to convince her it was time.

A secretary, Ivanka, an intern...

It is often most likely the person they are LEAST intimidated.

[get the red out]

13. I have had those alarm bells too

My Grandmother suffered from Alzheimer's for many years prior to her death, now my Mother suffers from some form of dementia.

Trump is not well, I personally do not doubt he suffers from dementia.

[highplainsdem]

18. Exactly. And it's terrifying, given Trump's power.

There have been other mentally unfit rulers throughout history, but never one with this much power.

[bdamomma]

59. Geez it's scary huh?

he is definitely a risk to himself and others. I work in a psychiatric facility too.

[Siwsan]

131. And, as harsh as it sounds, their removal didn't involve impeachment

Caligula comes to mind. As does Hitler. Two different methods to end the insanity.

[peggysue2]

46. Yup!

This is the way my father went. He hid the decline for awhile but then he hit a certain point and the damage was obvious. Same for my sister. Both suffered/are suffering from a premature onset version of the disease with starts and stops along the way. But there comes a tipping point when an individual simply cannot function and no manner of excuse can explain away the bizarre behavior and/or cognitive degradation.

We've been witnessing the decline for the past two years. The Trumpster was erratic and confused even on the campaign trail. This is how it goes. Meds can take the edge off but cannot reverse the disease process. In fact, if the man has been using uppers/downers in addition to any dementia meds, he's probably increased the speed of the disease process.

I feel the tide turning.

As horrible as Alzheimer's/dementia is for an individual, I do not want Trump and his enabling clan to walk off using impairment as an excuse. The family members and his inner circle have known what the score was from the beginning, but still enabled, defended and promoted the craziness. They did it willfully because they had something to gain--influence, power and barrels of money. The Trumpster will ultimately get what he deserves for a life of selfish, arrogant excess. His children, advisors and ring of complicit politicians should be hounded and face the full measure of the law. I feel no pity for any of them.

[smirkymonkey]

53. I agree with you. As much as I think he is mentally impaired by Alzheimer's/Dementia, I do not want

to see him get pardoned for all his sins because of this. It does not excuse the fact that he is a cruel, greedy, stupid, vindictive, vulgar, petty man. He needs to pay for what he has done his entire life and especially for what he has done to this country. I despise the man and I haven't a shred of pity for him, regardless of what he may be suffering from.

[bdamomma]

62. I have the same opinion

the guy needs to pay, the GOP has the authority to put country over party in this instance.

Or will they be the party with a sick a$$ man to exacerbate a nuclear war and to cause much death.

When the 25th Amendment was conceived there was no nuclear weapons either.

[smirkymonkey]

75. It's almost unbelievable that someone so stupid, so deranged could possibly have

so much power. When will the republicans wake up and realize what kind of danger this moron poses to the entire planet? He has to go!

[onenote]

91. The 25th amendment was proposed in 1965, ratified in 1967

Nuclear weapons had been around for two decades. Cuban missile crisis was only a couple of years in the past.

[pangaia]

101. It is the GOP THAT NEEDS TO PAY.

Never Ever loSE sight of this.

Do not celebrate so much if fucking moron is gotten rid of that we forget the REAL culprits.
REPUBLICANS. EVERY LAST FUCKING ONE OF THEM.

Spread that far and wide and loud and over and over and over...

[bdamomma]

112. Exactly, tRump

may be a moron and everything else they called him, but all I can see and remember hearing is McConnell saying that Obama will be a one term President and obstructing everything that Obama wanted to put through, and obstructing Garland. And McConnell with that fucking grin on his face and excusing the pu**y grabbing comment, how in your right mind excuse this crap. Geez, I have never seen our country being taken down like this ever.

And by the way, Ryan is an asshole too, Social Security is not an entitlement programme either......................taking a deep breath.

[pangaia]

118. SS in fact IS an emtitlement program. We are entitled to it.

BUT, like so much else, the fascists have changed the meaning of the term.. like they have done with "liberal", "Democrat(ic), and so much else

They are really expert at psychological projection and twisting truth until it becomes the opposite.

[Sophia4]

105. I don't know when it was "conceived," but the 25th Amendment was passed in 1965.

On January 6th, 1965, Senator Birch Bayh of Indiana and Representative Emanuel Celler of New York introduced joint resolutions in the Senate and House of Representatives aimed at clarifying and defining the rules on Presidential succession and inability in the Constitution. The Bayh-Celler proposals, which formed the foundation of the 25th Amendment, refined the processes of declaring a President incapable of fulfilling the duties of office and filling a Vice Presidential vacancy.

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/exhibits/amendment25/25thamendment.html

We definitely had nuclear weapons by that time. Hiroshima was August 6-9, 1945.

https://www.google.com/search?q=date+of+hiroshima&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab

[bdamomma]

121. Thanks

for the information. I think they better put the 25th in practice.

[Eliot Rosewater]

102. And before he had any of these problems, he was a barely literate, hugely ignorant

person who knew nothing about anything.

Including and ESPECIALLY business.

[delisen]

124. I'd like to ask all "Trump has Dementia"

amateur diagnosticians whether they themselves would be able to effectively fake symptoms of dementia if they're told they needed to order avoid prosecution for crimes that will subject them to likely imprisonment for the rest of their lives and loss of all their wealth and income.

Was he in early stage dementia when he asked Comey to stop investigating? or when he asked Russia to release H Clinton's emails? or when he told the police to be rough with people? or consistently defended Putin and Russia? or said both sides were at fault in Charlottesville? or when he planned a defense for Don, Jr regarding the meeting with Russian agents to get dirt on H Clinton.

Trump is above all a con man, and has been that for his entire adult life.

[zipplewrath]

132. Yes and yes

I'd like to ask all "Trump has Dementia" amateur diagnosticians whether they themselves would be able to effectively fake symptoms of dementia if they're told they needed to order avoid prosecution for crimes that will subject them to likely imprisonment for the rest of their lives and loss of all their wealth and income.

Yes, I could. In part because until it gets quite severe, one tends to drift in and out of various levels of lucid. So it's hard to get "caught" because it's just one of your more lucid moments.

Unfortunately that is also the exact problem that the people around him have in accepting the reality that it is happening.

Was he in early stage dementia when he asked Comey to stop investigating? or when he asked Russia to release H Clinton's emails? or when he told the police to be rough with people? or consistently defended Putin and Russia? or said both sides were at fault in Charlottesville? or when he planned a defense for Don, Jr regarding the meeting with Russian agents to get dirt on H Clinton.

He could have been. For one thing, it's the situation above, moving in and out of lucid. But furthermore, in the earliest stages, most of the behavior will merely be "strange". It will be odd decision making, or seemingly self destructive choices. One of the issues is that since they begin to forget so much, they make decisions that seem strange, unless you realize what it is they've forgotten.

There is a danger to arm chair diagnosis. It becomes seeing more than is actually there, or basically "projecting". I have this small sort of check list of things I'm looking for "next". But I'm WAY down the check list. And I'm not worried about him faking it. If he gets caught at anything, they'll just give him the Nixon treatment. He'll resign, or be impeached, and they'll move on. He ain't going to jail.

[tanyev]

2. Oh, that's going to leave a mark.

I can't believe they gave this guy so much access. If DOTUS approved it, he probably naturally assumed that it would be a fawning portrayal. I mean, how could anyone spend so much time in his orbit and not be impressed by how unbelievably awesome he is?

[PCIntern]

3. Because hes fucking senile, thats how.

He has no idea what’s going on. Period.

[Chemisse]

29. He's also limited to what people tell him, since he won't read.

I expect many in his administration have used that fact to their benefit.

[L. Coyote]

5. The good news, you remember how to go to the bathroom for a few more years. The bad news ...

he's the fucking President of the United States.

[GusBob]

7. One scene that is missing so far in these excerpts: Charlottesberg Nazi march

I want to read the behind the scenes on that episode

[madaboutharry]

8. I am in the "he has dementia camp."

It is obvious to anyone who has seen it up close. There is no way that Trump can remain in office until the next election. He seems to be deteriorating rapidly.

[zipplewrath]

16. Likewise

if it progresses anywhere near as fast as my father, sometime late next year it will get really hard to hide. He won't be able to do the SotU address in 2019.

[Chemisse]

31. The stress of the job might act to hasten its progression.

Not that he actually DOES his job.

[colorado_ufo]

50. He is most disoriented when he travels.

The change in time zones, food, new people, and disruption of routine really wreak havoc with his brain. Also the lack of sleep.

[RandomAccess]

77. I'll never forget that clip of him deplaning and

then turn hard right, walking right past his car -- to finally stop, look around, and realize he needed to turn back. By that time someone had come to collect him. It was bizarre, but now more understandable.

[rurallib]

71. I wonder if watching Fox contributes?

[Blaukraut]

107. He's always been an asshole. Now he's a demented asshole

My mother had dementia. (not that she was an asshole) but the signs Trump exhibits are very familiar.

[delisen]

110. Great that absolves him of responsibility.

He can keep his fortune and his freedom and retire to Trump Tower.

The report that he orchestrated the false story about Donald Jr's meeting with the Russians was only about adoption must surely be false.

Yes I am being sarcastic

[HipChick]

9. This sounds like my Dad in the early stages...

[Orrex]

10. If he is ever formally diagnosed with Alzheimer's and/or dementia, it will change my attitude

No longer will I restrain myself, and I will instead laugh uproariously at every goof, gaffe and stumble. I will delight in his every malapropism, exaggeration, and forgotten word.

I will giggle with glee every time he forgets where his car is parked or visibly struggles to remember the difficult word "terrific."

I will laugh when he collapses into an insensate, blubbering mass of quivering flesh, pissing and shitting himself on live tv broadcast around the world.

I will cherish his humiliation, and the more tragic and traumatic it is, the more I will enjoy it.


And it can't come soon enough.

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. And it can't come soon enough.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

20. Could happen at the State of the Union speech...

If he has one.

[Chemisse]

32. I am just the opposite. I giggle now and enjoy his humiliation, but would try to be more restrained

if he was actually diagnosed, since then it wouldn't technically be his fault.

[Orrex]

47. I respect that--honestly I do.

My grandmother was in the advanced stages of Alzheimer's toward the end of her life, and my mother suffered dementia before she herself died, so I can understand the pain of these conditions.

Regardless, Trump should never have been allowed within 10 million miles of the ballot, much less the White House. If he were simply Donald Trump the blowhard TV personality, then I would feel honest sympathy for him and his family, no matter how big a jerk he is.

But once he stepped into the role of president, the stakes were obviously raised, so my sympathy for him and his family is tempered by the catastrophic impact that he's having on the nation and world.

If he were to look at the camera and say "I apologize to the American people, but I must resign because my health prevents me from executing the duties of the office of president," then I would immediately and permanently stop mocking him.

Until he does so, then he's fair game, though I respect others' choice not to make sport of him for it.

[Chemisse]

72. Actually I don't have any sympathy at all for him and his, and won't even if he is diagnosed.

I would only refrain from mocking him (IF he was officially identified as having that disease) out of respect for OTHER people or families living with Alzheimer's.

Trump is one of the few people on this Earth to whose suffering I am - and will always be - completely indifferent.

[Orrex]

73. That's an interesting perspective.

I like it.

[bdtrppr6]

82. yes

the disease is tragic. no one should go through it.

it will be used in the future to "justify" his administration though, so hopefully (kind of) it goes un-diagnosed. prefer the destructive actions be pointed at as simply the sheer evil and stupidity of him, his family, and the GOP, not because he was "suffering".

[Chemisse]

83. Good point. Even in his mental heyday, he would have been a highly destructive president.

History should not afford him any excuses.

[pangaia]

55. Everything is his fucking fault. He is a shitstain of a human being, dementia or not.

[askyagerz]

60. Probably don't need to look any further

Then his diet. You choose to eat like shit all your life I'm not gonna feel sorry for you when your suffering because of it

[bdamomma]

68. his diet is a ticking time bomb

all he eats is junk food. I'm sure all that crap will clog his arteries. Keep on drinking that Coke and fast food and see what happens.

Plus his volatile anger issues, he is not in good shape physically and mentally. We need to keep on this.

[delisen]

113. I think he is counting on us being gullible re dementia

reports.

It seems as though too many of are susceptible to propaganda by con men

Yeah Trump has selective dementia and keeps moving his agenda forward.

[pangaia]

119. I don't think he is faking it.

BUT trumpublicans sure will use it as an excuse..

[pangaia]

103. His entire life is his fault.

No freakin' excuses. It IS who he IS.

[Codeine]

85. If he were ever formally diagnosed

I doubt the teeming masses would ever be made aware of it.

[pangaia]

104. UNLESS... it was needed as an excuse...

[Chemisse]

111. Good point. Which means we'll never have to restrain ourselves from ripping him apart. n/t

[Codeine]

115. Lol! Good, because Im not so good

at restraint!

[Freethinker65]

11. Now that they got their SC justice and tax cuts for the wealthy, they will admit he has dementia

Very convenient. Watch as some try to turn Trump into a sympathetic elder figure, as the country continues to be dismantled.

It was obvious he was in cognitive decline during the campaign and the GOP went along for the ride.

I blame the GOP, but I also blame his family that knew he was incapable of making rational decisions for himself, much less the entire country. When my father had dementia, he knew he was failing and it was frustrating for everyone. We, and he, knew when it was time to “take away the keys” and provide extra support and care.

[zipplewrath]

19. Mom wouldn't let us

I lived through this too. We spent the better part of a year wishing mom would take away the keys. She wouldn't. After a fender bender in the parking lot, the police did it for her. We were all glad no one had to die to accomplish this.

Remember when Trump drove a golf cart across a putting green?

Classic sign.

[7962]

48. Thats also a classic sign of an asshole. Which has already been proven. nt

[zipplewrath]

65. Yes and no

The thing many of us are saying is that we are seeing CHANGES to his behavior over a very short period of time (a year or so). Whether he is an asshole or not, it is indicative of a much greater problem.

[alterfurz]

67. The rats know the Trumptanic is sinking...

...but don't want to abandon ship before gutting Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. They're playing a dangerous game involving expert calculation and precise timing--are they cunning/clever/lucky enough to pull it off? Stay tuned!

[pangaia]

106. I think we need to STOP using his mental condition as an EXCUSE..

Not that "WE" are, but THEY will. And it is no excuse in this case.

He has always been sick, hateful, ignorant, angry, selfish, piece of shit humanless being.

[dalton99a]

17. Demented sick fuck

aka mentally deranged dotard

[duforsure]

21. Trump is talking lawsuit

I hope they hold depositions for the public to watch if he does. It will be brutal if they do.

[no_hypocrisy]

26. He's bluffing. Trump wouldn't dare risk himself to Discovery either via

tapes, notes, depositions, etc.

Trump may have sufficient dementia to have forgotten that cogent process in a legal action.

[7962]

45. he has yet to sue anyone he's threatened. I doubt that will change. nt

[left-of-center2012]

22. "a heavily made-up Trump"

Like a corpse?

[delisen]

123. Now some will switch their dementia diagnosis to

a "Trump is dead" diagnosis.

[TNNurse]

23. I diagnosed Reagan two years

before it was admitted.

Dementia, and narcissism are a very scary combination. We have a family friend who is experiencing both, he is 92 and was at least once both intelligent and educated. Trump is neither.

[maryellen99]

27. The signs were there long before that

You can see that something wasn’t right with him during his debates with Mondale in 1984.

[zentrum]

24. Take. The. Nuclear.

….Button. Away. From. Him.

I know we're told the Adults are in charge. But what Republican, currently, is truly an adult?

[Buns_of_Fire]

25. He HAS "old friends?"

Acquaintances, sure. Sycophants and hangers-on, plenty. But I can't see anyone having a long-term friendship with him.

I just see him and any "friend" as two leeches attached to each other, each sucking the other dry for whatever they can get out of the other.

[maryellen99]

28. Vince McMahon is one nt

[7962]

44. And Vince has his own "issues". nt

[treestar]

33. +1

And there is no reason for him to remember them.

[Bob Loblaw]

38. He has any friends?

nt

[janterry]

41. No, just associates

as the men I worked with in prison used to say.

[avebury]

36. An incompetent President would create an issue

that his signature on the "tax law" would be invalid. If the Democrats could find a way to prove that Trump is not competent that would raise a huge red flag for everything that is being done under his name as President.

[shanny]

86. ex post facto

He hadn't been deemed mentally incompetent before signing the law so we can't now go back--after a determination of mental incompetence--and declare the law invalid.

Sucking at your job (and as a human being) doesn't count.

[Johonny]

39. Since he has no friends, I just assumed he couldn't recognize those that don't exist.

except Jon Miller, great guy.

[lindysalsagal]

40. Prediction: He'll fall apart on camera, unable to read a speech, and start throwing out the campaign

taunts until someone pulls the camera cable and claims there was a power outage or medical emergency....

and that will be the last time we ever get him live on camera. After that, it will be strictly taped and edited video with no reporters or questions that are not part of the edited script.

Only in dictatorships like cuba or n korea can you get away with "It's been 73 days since the leader has been spotted..." type of news.

[dixiegrrrrl]

95. Wow,,,you are some necromancer, in light of what just happened.

Can't wait to see that news video today.

[lindysalsagal]

97. OK I had to google necromancer but, yes: It's obvious this tactic was coming.

They can't make him available to questions for several reasons. But he has to fire back. His ego demands an audience.

[dixiegrrrrl]

99. I'm watching his video speech at today's Press Conference

Cannot believe the shoddy video work. What's the point of filming him from the side, demonstrating he is reading a prompter?

what happened to his right eye?

[Texin]

42. Classic symptoms and behaviors.

Actually, that clip of him picking up that plastic water bottle and drinking from it two-handed and still barely able to get it to his mouth was a pretty chilling visual. If I recall correctly, his Walter Reed-scheduled physical is set for January 12th. It'll be interesting to see if that comes about. That is a mandatory physical examination, required by law (or whatever provision under the law), but I'm sure he and his handlers are going pull out all the stops to try to bypass it or finagle with the process. And I'm not sure the public gets more than the mere cursory report; in fact, I'm sure we don't or else everyone would have known during the last remaining years of Reagan's term that he was in the grip of Alzheimer's disease. Frankly, with this wrecking crew in the WH, I'm just hoping they don't try to stage some sort of black op or domestic terror "event" or some such. I certainly wouldn't put this past them.

[colorado_ufo]

52. The water bottle episode followed another sniffing episode

All that Boundless Energy his staff talks about? Perhaps a little assistance from drugs?

[7962]

43. Wolf supposedly has these statements on tape. I hope he does.

Otherwise, its just going to be more of the same "he said, she said" stuff and denials. Anyone can say anything, but tapes will PROVE the statements were made

[bdamomma]

49. we have a very sick sick person

squatting in the WH, he really needs to go. His family should ask that he step aside. Oh Ivanka help your father please.

Something is definitely wrong with him, if he doesn't let housekeeping change his sheets.

[onecaliberal]

51. Im sorry but when you try to sleep with everyones wife, you dont have friends.

[samnsara]

54. Im starting to feel pity for this man.. if hes truely ill he needs help and

..he needs to be in a home somewhere. My dad is a 93 yr old WWll/Korean War vet with various cognitive issues going on and as his dtr I try to protect him from situations that would be embarrassing and make him look silly or less than the man he is. Why aren't his kids doing that or don't they recognize his failings? Are they too narcissistic themselves that they are willing to let him act like a buffoon in front of the world so that THEY can come out looking better somehow?

WHAT KIND OF FAMILY DOES HE HAVE??

[RobinA]

120. Honestly,

what can they do? He’s the president. I doubt he would listen to them, and his visibility prevents much interference on their part.

[snooper2]

56. I highly recommend reading the whole piece at the Hollywood Reporter

Just finished it...and now will be buying the book...


Fucking Amazing-

This part struck me the most, I knew there was a reason all Drumpfs lawyers are fucking idiots---



"Most succinctly, no one expected him to survive Mueller. Whatever the substance of the Russia "collusion," Trump, in the estimation of his senior staff, did not have the discipline to navigate a tough investigation, nor the credibility to attract the caliber of lawyers he would need to help him. (At least nine major law firms had turned down an invitation to represent the president.)"

[shanny]

87. Yup: they won't represent him because he won't listen and he won't pay.

[bucolic_frolic]

61. Taxpayers are paying that Doctor

he owes the American People truth and thoroughness

[dlk]

64. With Trump Obviously Incompetent, We Don't Know Who Is Actually Making the Decisions

We may have had an "election" but if the person "elected" isn't truly in charge and making the decisions, we really don't have a democracy.

[bdamomma]

70. What bothers me

is that they are putting American citizens at risk, there is so much information being withheld from us, his fucking base don't care about the facts/truth but we do care.

And also all this "closed door' "classified information" should be publicized to us, I do not trust the GOP on this at all, they will be the first to jump off the ship to avoid any backlash.

[rusty fender]

88. John Kelly is probably making

the decisions, along with input from Mattis and Tillerson

[pangaia]

69. Be careful. DO NOT BE COMPLACENT about his medical situation.

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He is responsible for his behavior.

He is a shit human being. Always has been. Pure hatred, evil. He is a destroyer, just like Bannon.

He must NEVER be let off the hook for the horror he has, is and will continue to cause, just because of a medical/psychological problems. Nor his cohorts. The all deserve to have their lives destroyed for what they are doing. From Session, to Chris Collins, to Marsha Blackburn to those evil globs of protoplasm at fox, to radio dung mouths, to the treasurer on my HOA Board.

All of them.

Lock them all in a huuuge cage and let them at each other.

[bdamomma]

100. What they

are doing to this country and the world is despicable. We will be looked down upon unless something happens. I am really disappointed, this is a homegrown American terrorist in office. Weird you don't hear shit out of Putin huh???


What Europeans/the world think about Americans or question is why is he still in the office of the most powerful. They said the same thing about Bush being reelected. Will we ever learn from our mistakes???? Is this what we want to leave to our children and grandchildren???

Just my rant.

[Irish_Dem]

76. Diagnoses piling up: Dementia, neurosis, psychosis, paranoia, impulse control, personality disorders

nt

[HelenWheels]

78. Where and when can I get this book?

[Hoyt]

79. If Wolff's assertions are true, Trump is on way out. But, I'm a bit skeptical of his credibility.

Not hard to believe the things we've heard about Trump and his Admin, but I question whether Wolff can really prove it, or that the likes of Bannon will say it on camera or in testimony. I hope I am wrong, assuming Trump doesn't push the button or cause an immediate worldwide recession.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/michael-wolff-tells-a-juicy-tale-in-his-new-trump-book-but-should-we-believe-it/2018/01/03/d46f31c6-f0b2-11e7-97bf-bba379b809ab_story.html?utm_term=.f5ef51097266

[Grins]

80. Trump attorney issured "ceased and desist" letter to publisher

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-slams-bannon-when-he-was-fired-he-not-only-lost-his-job-he-lost-his-mind/2018/01/03/21fb158a-f0aa-11e7-b3bf-ab90a706e175_story.html

That's pre-censorship; right from Orwell's authoritarian Reich-wing.

Naturally, Fox and Friends is already defending Trump over this (something they would have screamed bloody murder against if the book had been about a Kennedy, a Clinton, Gore, Kerry, or Obama).

[duforsure]

84. I've seen this before too

Close relative had dementia and acted this way, which worsened as time went on. Created a lot more problems, some serious.

[Cha]

92. But he sure can tweet up a

gd storm via foxscrews.



LCoyote https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10050374

[jalan48]

93. Paving the way for a Trump exit. The tax cuts for the wealthy were passed-he's no longer needed.

[zipplewrath]

133. Because Pence wouldn't have?

I don't really see how that works. They can make him quite the sympathetic character if they invoke the 25th and make allusions to Reagan. He'll go down as an unfortunate revolutionary figure.

[DoctorJoJo]

96. If His Aides Really Wanted to Get Rid of Him, ....

... all they'd need to do would be to schedule a two hour, no holds barred press conference on TV. He'd be 25th Amendmented before he got back to the residence!

[Mendocino]

98. Trump says Bannon

is just a coffee boy.

[yuiyoshida]

122. K&R and Tweeted

you betcha!

[bucolic_frolic]

126. Too good to be true

They are manufacturing a sympathy/martyr escape route for him, just in case Congressional obstruction, Faux News public opinion uproar, or attacks on Mueller don't work.