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ffr

(22,670 posts)
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 01:33 PM Jan 2018

This may help explain your angry tRumpster uncle

...Bonobos Shun Helpers And Befriend the Bullies



Even very young babies can tell the difference between someone who's helpful and someone who's mean — and lab studies show that babies consistently prefer the helpers.

But one of humans' closest relatives — the bonobo — makes a different choice, preferring to cozy up to the meanies.
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"The bonobos weren't very interested in the helper," says Krupenye. Instead, they consistently chose to take food from the jerk.

Humans might not want to interact with someone who is not nice, but it looks like bonobos interpret the meanie's behavior as a sign of dominance. - Utah Public Radio


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This may help explain your angry tRumpster uncle (Original Post) ffr Jan 2018 OP
So you are saying that conservatives are, what is the term, bottoms? Thomas Hurt Jan 2018 #1
Having read the article I just have one Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #2
Where this article's research may have relevence is in general behavior pattern recognition ffr Jan 2018 #3
Actually, how they were raised is very relevant Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #5
Some people are just jerks rusty fender Jan 2018 #4

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. Having read the article I just have one
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jan 2018

comment. These were all orphaned bonobos. What was their experience with a nurturing maternal relationship? How did they come to be orphaned? Were they mistreated by "mean" humans before being rescued? Extrapolating anything from their behavior is problematic.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
3. Where this article's research may have relevence is in general behavior pattern recognition
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jan 2018

We as humans recognize patterns. Whether the Bonobos were orphaned, raised by wolves or were all rescued in a lifeboat at sea, is way beyond the general behavior pattern I think should be drawn.

Extrapolating their pattern of behavior is completely consistent with human pattern recognition and possibly consistent with explaining why certain humans are drawn to mean personalities, aka bullies.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
5. Actually, how they were raised is very relevant
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 03:05 PM
Jan 2018

This isn't just about pattern recognition it's about responding to those patterns and that is learned behavior. Orphaned animals have a very different learning environment than those raised with a primary caregiver. If they want to extrapolate this to how people exposed to trauma in early childhood react, ok, but otherwise it's not a representative sample of normal development so shouldn't be used to extrapolate behavior for that population.

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