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ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:58 AM Jan 2018

From GQ via Joy Reid on Twitter: why Wolff is having such an impact

https://www.gq.com/story/michael-wolff-white-house-trump-access

Michael Wolff Did What Every Other White House Reporter Is Too Cowardly to Do

I’m gonna begin this post with the same disclaimer that needs to come with every post about Michael Wolff, which is that Wolff is a fart-sniffer whose credibility is often suspect and who represents the absolute worst of New York media-cocktail-circuit inbreeding. But in a way, it’s fitting that our least reliable president could finally find himself undone at the hands of one of our least reliable journalists.

All of Wolff’s excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet…Wolff has audio. He’s got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.

And look how he did it. He did it by sleazily ingratiating himself with the White House, gaining access, hosting weird private dinners, and then taking full advantage of the administration's basic lack of knowledge about how reporting works. Some of the officials Wolff got on tape claim to be unaware that they were on the record. Wolff denies this, but he's very much up front in the book's intro about the fact that he was able to exploit the incredible "lack of experience" on display here. In other words, Wolff got his book by playing a bunch of naive dopes.

Thank God for that. Wolff has spent this week thoroughly exploiting Trump and his minions the same way they've exploited the cluelessness of others. And he pulled it off because, at long last, there was a reporter out there willing to toss decorum aside and burn bridges the same way Trump does.




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From GQ via Joy Reid on Twitter: why Wolff is having such an impact (Original Post) ginnyinWI Jan 2018 OP
The book is mostly true. The White House is mostly false. dchill Jan 2018 #1
Hear! Hear! Raster Jan 2018 #2
Doesn't matter if it true, it's believable... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #18
It confirms what everybody already knows about him uponit7771 Jan 2018 #29
I have been reading the book and thinking about White House visitor logs. rzemanfl Jan 2018 #3
incompetence all around. ginnyinWI Jan 2018 #4
A FOIA lawsuit has been filed. No decision as of yet. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #8
The Drumpfsters might want to question their decision to make that suit rzemanfl Jan 2018 #10
Disappointing how stupid they are get the red out Jan 2018 #28
I have been describing it as re-living a nightmare with someone pointing out anything rzemanfl Jan 2018 #31
Been listening to the Youtube audio version yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #5
yeah that's what I like about reading it. ginnyinWI Jan 2018 #6
Most of this stuff I had known already by being exposed to yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #13
k&r bigtree Jan 2018 #7
I've seen nitpicking like whether Trump knew Boehner because he had golfed with him Jarqui Jan 2018 #9
Or Tony Blair saying in essence, "No, I did not violate the Official Secrets Act." n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #11
She do pugs care about the truth? Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #16
Some repugs do care about the truth Jarqui Jan 2018 #20
Great article - "the book is trash" and "most of the info is accurate" can both be true statements oberliner Jan 2018 #12
Pit of Misery ouija Jan 2018 #14
The tapes Johnny2X2X Jan 2018 #15
Oh my! MontanaMama Jan 2018 #17
Are we taking author at his word re tapes or is it verified by publisher? Merlot Jan 2018 #19
I would think verified Johnny2X2X Jan 2018 #23
Yes.. that would be Cha Jan 2018 #26
Trump ought to be applauding Wolff. After all, Rethugs encourage ignorance at every opportunity and Doitnow Jan 2018 #21
Like Wolff said on Meet the Press this morning-- ginnyinWI Jan 2018 #22
Wolff was wondering when they'd find out about him! donkeypoofed Jan 2018 #24
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #30
Yes, the world Cha Jan 2018 #25
I've been listening to it JNelson6563 Jan 2018 #27
oh just a reminder bdamomma Jan 2018 #32
He was also on PBS Newshour last night. Makin' the rounds! nt ginnyinWI Jan 2018 #34
wait until bdamomma Jan 2018 #33

dchill

(38,514 posts)
1. The book is mostly true. The White House is mostly false.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jan 2018

It was past time for somebody to get down and dirty.

Wounded Bear

(58,677 posts)
18. Doesn't matter if it true, it's believable...
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jan 2018

Like the Maya Angelou quote: When someone shows you who they are, beleive them.

Trump has been showing us this side of his personality for decades, and then for two years as a candidate, and a year pretending to be president. Wolff book is believable because we've seen it all before.

rzemanfl

(29,566 posts)
3. I have been reading the book and thinking about White House visitor logs.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jan 2018

Wasn't there a stink early on about visitor logs? Didn't the Drumpfsters refuse to provide them? Is that refusal now poetically biting them square in the ass? Somebody would have asked why Wolff was there every day. K&R.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
4. incompetence all around.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jan 2018

I just read the chapter telling how unprepared and ill-equipped they all were for running a White House. The only people Trump could get were chumps who knew very little about governing. The smart ones stayed far away!

What a clown car!

rzemanfl

(29,566 posts)
10. The Drumpfsters might want to question their decision to make that suit
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:57 AM
Jan 2018

necessary. Incompetence all around.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
28. Disappointing how stupid they are
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:30 AM
Jan 2018

I have been reading the book and am a bit disappointed that they are probably too damn stupid to have been fully aware of their collusion with Russia, or at least that it wasn't business as usual. I at least wanted them to be smart enough to be aware of what they did!

It is hard for anyone to claim the gist of Wolff's book isn't true when so much of the chaos he writes about has been leaking out all over the place for the past year.

rzemanfl

(29,566 posts)
31. I have been describing it as re-living a nightmare with someone pointing out anything
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jan 2018

you had missed or forgotten. They are incredibly stupid.

yuiyoshida

(41,834 posts)
5. Been listening to the Youtube audio version
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jan 2018

and its like all the pieces of a puzzle were suddenly put together by magic.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
6. yeah that's what I like about reading it.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jan 2018

We've heard a lot of these things before but they are, in this book, put in order of time and with some of the gaps filled in.

I got mine on Kindle on Friday morning.

yuiyoshida

(41,834 posts)
13. Most of this stuff I had known already by being exposed to
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:18 AM
Jan 2018

Democratic Underground. We seem to have people here who are talented enough to expose information that was very close to the actual truth... amaZing!

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
9. I've seen nitpicking like whether Trump knew Boehner because he had golfed with him
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

missing the point that he's really alleging Trump forgot who Boehner was ...

The thing is: Wolff doesn't have to be 100% accurate. If only 25% of what he claims is true, it is a major, major problem.

Typical GOP defense will try to cling to the snippets to try to discredit Wolff and like times past, they'll have some success doing this. We have to stick to our guns to pin what sticks on Trump and the GOP for the midterms.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
16. She do pugs care about the truth?
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:25 AM
Jan 2018

Only when they try to cast doubt upon those who say things that counteract with their alternate reality.

Was it Cheney who said they create their own reality?

Look what they’ve wrought

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
20. Some repugs do care about the truth
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jan 2018

My sister is one (though she voted for Obama both times, she's been a life long moderate Republican)
An old school buddy is another - been very conservative, anti-entitlement his whole life

Both came over to the other side because of Trump's dishonesty - which both are embarrassed by

A hunk of them have busy lives and do not have time to dig into these issues. FOX News misleading them is all they have time for so they take it at face value because it is the only news they get.

Obviously, there are others, like white supremacists or Nazis, and no amount of facts or rational reasoning is going to get through to them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Great article - "the book is trash" and "most of the info is accurate" can both be true statements
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jan 2018

That was a point I was making in another thread.

Wolff's writing is awful. His fact-checking is lacking. His style is amateurish.

And yet - he got incredible access and shares some great info about these people - mostly by using their own words.

Johnny2X2X

(19,090 posts)
15. The tapes
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jan 2018

I'd like to see Wolff start releasing selected parts of the tapes. Really start to rattle them even more.

Johnny2X2X

(19,090 posts)
23. I would think verified
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

And there have been no specific denials. In fact today Bannon confirmed he said what was quoted to him about the meeting with the Russians.

No specific denials is telling and the Trump team had to be poring over the content looking for something they could point to.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
21. Trump ought to be applauding Wolff. After all, Rethugs encourage ignorance at every opportunity and
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jan 2018

put it on a pedestal. Trump's downfall is being hastened by his own ignorance. Mr. Know-it-All doesn't know very much.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
22. Like Wolff said on Meet the Press this morning--
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:14 PM
Jan 2018

He hasn't hit the wall yet, but it is still there, and at some point he'll hit it.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
24. Wolff was wondering when they'd find out about him!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 03:47 AM
Jan 2018

Wolff stated he was "waiting for someone to make that call" to Rupert Murdoch and inquire about him and they never did! DJT talks to him all the time and never mentioned it, so Rupert could never "tune him in" about Wolff. It's hilarious that no one even bothered to Google the guy's name. Just further proof that this entire administration is "too stupid to live". 😁

Cha

(297,446 posts)
25. Yes, the world
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:48 AM
Jan 2018

needed someone like Michael Wolff to get down in the sewer with trump & his doormats and come back and report on it.

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