It has come to this... I see good qualities in Paul Ryan and Rand Paul...

[LAS14]

Last edited Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Our political system has become so totally, totally lacking in moral fiber, that I see people with evil policies, but who, it seems, are motivated by those policies, rather than hate for blacks or Democrats or women, as a glimmer of positivity.

Does this make sense?

P.S. Upon reading a lot of replies, I see that I need to make clear that I distinguish between a desire to implement economic policies which my turn out to be very cruel to lots of people, particularly the disenfranchised, and the desire to get rid of/put down/hurt those very people. In other words it's better to have a system where we can argue about what's best for the country, big or small government, more or fewer taxes, than a system where the primary motivation is to not give our black president any wins, no matter what the issue.

I understand that some of the respondents really do think Ryan and Paul are motivated in both ways. Instead, I see some self consistency that I prefer to plain old hatred.

[Me.]

1. No

[Solly Mack]

2. No

[SamKnause]

3. I know what you are trying to say, but they are all EVIL FUCKING LIARS !!!

They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced.

They want to starve children, the elderly, and the working poor.

They want to deny healthcare to the masses.

They may not be racists, but they are EVIL !!!!!!!!!!!

EVIL FUCKING LIARS !!!!!!!!!!!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

4. Not.....really

Feel pretty sure that- even if they don't just come right out and say it like Trump-hate for blacks or Democrats or women (or poor) seems to be a large part of what is driving their policies.

[bluestarone]

5. no

no

[Amishman]

6. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. No. I get what you're saying, but neither of those guys

have good qualities. The only positive thing that can be said about either of them is that they don't try to hide what they think - but what they think is pretty bad.

[rogue emissary]

8. Nope

[steve2470]

9. The underlying policies are motivated by hate

Hate for the poor
Hate for the middle-class
Hate for the "other"
Hate for the non-rich non-white
Hate for PoC

So, with all due respect, no.

[world wide wally]

10. What kills you less?

Poison or a gun?

[Cracklin Charlie]

11. Snap out of it!

The zombie-eyed granny starver does not have good intentions.

Focus.

[LAS14]

12. I see my OP needs a little clarification. Have edited it.

[OliverQ]

13. Nope. They have zero good qualities.

All Republicans in Congress are horrible people.

[LAS14]

14. I see my OP needs a little clarification. Have edited it. nt

[meadowlander]

15. When Paul Ryan gets off his ass and actually does something about the racism,

then maybe, maybe you would have a point.

But the fact is that Paul Ryan has it within his power to censure the president or to start impeachment hearings or to get out of the way of the senate and congressional hearings on the Russia scandal but he is choosing not to do anything but to offer the same kinds of mealy-mouthed half-assed expressions of concern he's been doing for the past two years.

So no, no good qualities. If he isn't a racist himself he is a person who is willing to accept racism in others to get what he wants (which, not incidentally, is to take health care from kids and disabled people).