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There are several tables in this article. What a shitass deal!!
I sent this article to my Senators and Rep.
Women would lose $4.6 billion in earned tips if the administrations tip stealing rule is finalizedOverall, workers would lose $5.8 billion
http://www.epi.org/publication/women-would-lose-4-6-billion-in-earned-tips-if-the-administrations-tip-stealing-rule-is-finalized-overall-tipped-workers-would-lose-5-8-billion/
Report By Heidi Shierholz, David Cooper, Julia Wolfe, and Ben Zipperer January 17, 2018
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The Department of Labor (DOL) has proposed a rule that would make it legal for employers to pocket their workers tips, as long as they pay those workers at least the minimum wage. The proposed rule rescinds portions of longstanding DOL regulations that prohibit employers from taking tips.1 We estimate that if the rule is finalized, every year workers will lose $5.8 billion in tips, as tips are shifted from workers to employers.2 Of the $5.8 billion, nearly 80 percent$4.6 billionwould be taken from women who are working in tipped jobs.3
DOL has masked the fact that this rule would be a windfall to restaurant owners and other employersout of the pockets of tipped workersby making it sound as if this rule is about tip pooling. Of course, once employers have full control of tips, one of the things they could do with those tips is distribute them to back of the house workers like dishwashers and cooks. But the proposed rule does not require employers to distribute the tips, so employers would be no more likely to share tips with back-of-the-house workers than they would be to make any other choice about what to do with a business windfall, including using the money to make capital improvements to their establishments, to increase executive pay, or to line their own pockets.
Many employers pocket tips even now, when it is illegal for them to do so (for example, research on workers in Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York found that 12 percent of tipped workers had tips stolen from them by their employer or supervisor).4 The fact that illegal tip theft is so prevalent underscores that when employers can legally pocket tips, many will. And basic economic logic dictates that it is highly unlikely that back-of-the-house workers will get more pay. There is currently no limit to what these workers can be paid, so employers are already paying their back-of-the-house workers what they need to pay to attract workers willing to work in those jobs. If employers do share some tips with them, it will likely be offset by a reduction in their base pay, leaving their take-home pay largely unaffected.
The economic effects of this rule are as follows: (1) tipped workers will lose $5.8 billion a year in tips, (2) the take-home pay of back-of-the-house workers will remain largely unchanged, and (3) employers will get a $5.8 billion a year windfall. The $5.8 billion is 16.1 percent of the estimated $36.4 billion in tips earned by tipped workers annually and amounts to more than $1,000 per year on average across all tipped workers........................
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)When will people get angry?
I know, when it affects THEM
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I currently ALWAYS tip 20%. I will NOT line the corporation's pocket.
Cha
(297,655 posts)tips or not.. and it's not just women.. guys serve, too.
Maraya1969
(22,497 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)The minute they know the wait staff is getting paid minimum wage, the tips will go away. The only reason we do in America is we *know* it goes to the server and they don't get paid otherwise.
Restaurant patrons will quickly realize there's no reason to leave extra money. Why in the world would you want to tip the owner of the restaurant more than the bill? You've already paid them in the check. They didn't pour you any coffee.
Now the trick is getting servers paid *more* than minimum wage.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't want my tips going into employer's pockets. I always tip very well, but I want to make sure that money goes to the server. Is there a way to know what establishments practice this policy? Will cash tips be a way around it?
PatentlyDemocratic
(89 posts)What kind of a person thinks up such a rule?
Cha
(297,655 posts)I can't see the greedy ass owners doing this IF it becomes law.
K&R.. Mahalo rivers
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)now and goes unnoticed. This admin and the GOP is running with the ball while they have it. They are the definition of greedy sociopaths!
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Den of thieves.
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)WITHOUT NOTICE.
Good luck to any greedy restaurants that adopt this tip-stealing policy... I seriously predict that no servers/wait staff would work for $9
an hour here in Denver.
in my neighborhood - McDonald's starts at 11.50 and Wal-mart starts at 10.50 with a raise after 6 weeks.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)$75k and up 25-30 years ago. Tip stealing would be a huge income boost for employers, but leave servers bankrupt. Then the quality of service at the nice place would crash.
oasis
(49,407 posts)disalitervisum
(470 posts)many years ago. Steve Wynn, widely held in contempt by former employees of his hotels in Las Vegas, is also the chairman of fund-raising for the RNC, appointed to the party post by Trump.
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)3rd Rock from the Sun - Tipping
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Ohioboy
(3,244 posts)This is low.
AllyCat
(16,222 posts)Motownman78
(491 posts)for decades. Dancers have to do a tip-out at the end of each night where they pay the hostess, bartender, dj, and bouncer a share of their tips.
Takket
(21,625 posts)if that number was reversed, i wonder if the GOP, who prefer women at home pregnant and baking, would even be discussing this.