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RandySF

(59,413 posts)
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:04 AM Jan 2018

Florida voters will be able to restore voting rights to over a million former felons in November

Florida voters will have a chance to restore voting rights to more than 1 million former felons through a ballot initiative this November.

The proposed constitutional amendment on Tuesday reached the 766,200 petition signatures required to go on the ballot. The Voting Restoration Amendment, which the state is expected to certify soon, would automatically restore rights to citizens convicted of most non-violent crimes who have completed their prison sentence, parole, and probation. Only those convicted of murder or felony sexual offense would be excluded.

If approved with 60 percent of the vote in November, the amendment has the potential to reshape electoral politics in Florida, a critical swing state, and set the example for other states grappling with whether to relax strict laws prohibiting people with criminal convictions from voting. Florida currently has one of the strictest felon disenfranchisement laws in the country — only Florida, Kentucky, Virginia, and Iowa permanently bar those with felony convictions from voting for life, unless they seek clemency. In total, roughly 1.6 million Florida citizens — about one in four African Americans — are barred from casting a ballot.

Sheena Meade, organizing director for the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition which led the initiative to gather more than a million signatures, told ThinkProgress that getting the amendment certified is a “huge accomplishment for the people of Florida.”


https://thinkprogress.org/florida-ballot-voting-8b8decc2c7dd/

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Florida voters will be able to restore voting rights to over a million former felons in November (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2018 OP
This, along with the increase of citizens from Puerto Rico, could swing Florida blue for a long time bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #1
I never like to assume that all felons are Democrats RandySF Jan 2018 #4
I agree with that ... but "about one in four African Americans" are denied the ability to vote SFnomad Jan 2018 #8
So they should be allowed to vote. Scarsdale Jan 2018 #12
Nonviolent felons trend blue. Violent ones trend red. SpankMe Jan 2018 #17
great start, though imho doesn't go far enough. unblock Jan 2018 #2
Congratulations and thanks to all who spearheaded this effort The Blue Flower Jan 2018 #3
Sorry, I see this as an issue Repukes are going to hang their hats on packman Jan 2018 #5
Hard to say zipplewrath Jan 2018 #7
I live in Florida. You should really study this state. Blue_true Jan 2018 #16
Hey, fellow Floridian- Panhandle dweller here packman Jan 2018 #18
Will people scare THAT easily? Jim Lane Jan 2018 #19
Probably the right thing to do, but I have to wonder if it will pass Renew Deal Jan 2018 #6
WTF? 60% will NOT happen Why is it not 50.1% like everything else? winstars Jan 2018 #9
It used to be bluevoter4life Jan 2018 #14
The path to clemency is extraordinarily difficult. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #10
I wa sone of those who signed the petition! obamanut2012 Jan 2018 #11
I am one of the signatures that got counted. Blue_true Jan 2018 #13
Of all ppl Rand Paul tried to do this in Ky Puzzledtraveller Jan 2018 #15
I signed. And it has a real shot at passing GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #20
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
8. I agree with that ... but "about one in four African Americans" are denied the ability to vote
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jan 2018

And when 33% more AAs will now have the ability to vote, you can expect that the vast majority of those new potential voters will be Democratic.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. So they should be allowed to vote.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:52 PM
Jan 2018

They are still citizens, with RIGHTS. Having served their time, they should get their rights reinstated. That right never should have been taken away.

SpankMe

(2,970 posts)
17. Nonviolent felons trend blue. Violent ones trend red.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 02:07 PM
Jan 2018

The guy they just arrested for providing food water and clothing to Mexican immigrants is liberal.

Timothy McVeigh was conservative.

unblock

(52,380 posts)
2. great start, though imho doesn't go far enough.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jan 2018

government should not be able to pick and choose its voters.

period.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. Sorry, I see this as an issue Repukes are going to hang their hats on
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jan 2018

Florida, with its elderly population, its conservative bent, and its strong Repuke base (especially in the Pandhandle) is going to latch onto this and play it for all it's worth to energize its base. I can see the Willy Horton and scare ads now.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. Hard to say
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jan 2018

We've passed some fairly "liberal" amendments lately. (Our constitution protects pigs, really). And this amendment will resonate with several constituencies here in Florida. It's received fairly favorable press in the state (which has limited agency I understand). I suspect it will hang on the GOTV work more than anything else.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. I live in Florida. You should really study this state.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jan 2018

Yes, Rick Scott got elected Governor, but he ran as a relative moderate the first time around. The state is a purple state for good reason. The South of the state is progressive, as is the Tampa-Orlando corridor. My part of the state, North-central leans red, but not by as much as it used to. Jacksonville is blue as is Leon County where Tallahassee is located. The western panhandle is red, but not as red as it used to be.

On a social note, I have travelled some. While the South, including parts of Florida has racists, relationships between people of different races have improved dramatically, in particular where I live.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
18. Hey, fellow Floridian- Panhandle dweller here
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

Perhaps it is because I am in deep Trump country here, a bit east of Pensacola- I view this area as red as red can get. I too have traveled on the highways and byways and see America becoming more and more splintered into racial, economic and geographical areas- which saddens me on many levels. Such a country is ripe for the plucking and we need person or group to unite us to step out on the political stage.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
19. Will people scare THAT easily?
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:50 AM
Jan 2018

This measure doesn't spring any felons from prison. What's the fear, that they'll go vote and then say, "Hey, as long as I'm in the car, I might as well knock over a 7-11"?

IIRC there are some date suggesting that restoration of voting rights helps the process of reintegration into society and therefore reduces the recidivism rate. I hope the supporters in Florida can figure out a way to frame that message without using big words like "recidivism".

bluevoter4life

(788 posts)
14. It used to be
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jan 2018

Voters approved the 60% threshold 15ish years ago if I recall correctly. Twist of irony: that ballot measure passed with less than 60% of the vote.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
10. The path to clemency is extraordinarily difficult.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jan 2018

I wish I could remember the details, but I remember it being a long shot, and the decision-making process struck me as being quite arbitrary.

The result is that the large majority remain disenfranchised for life, because the process is a one-shot deal, rather like an appeal.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. I am one of the signatures that got counted.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:55 PM
Jan 2018

I plan to vote for the change in November. As a society, if we are going to call prison time reformation, we should restore rights to people that do their time and come back to society and obey laws.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. I signed. And it has a real shot at passing
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jan 2018

Hopefully there will be money to run some ads playing to the whole redemption of the sinner. Southerners love that Shit.

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