I gotta repost this for everyone we know who says, "both parties are the same"

[SHRED]

This list was added to by many fine folks here:

Things that Democrats would not be doing if they had the power:

Escalating towards nuclear war with NK.
Pulling out of Paris Climate Agreement.
Reducing National Monuments.
Defunding renewable energy.
Defunding CHIP.
Not helping Puerto Rico sufficiently.
Threatening and deporting DACA.
Building a wall on the southern border.
Attacking our allies and praising Russia.
Ignoring the Russia's cyber attack on our democracy.
Trying to revive the war on cannabis.
Backing expansion of private prisons.
Sabotaging the ACA.
Pushing an obscene tax bill which trigger cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
Preparing to decimate the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau.
A State Department in shambles.
Privatization schemes against public education.
Expanding the private prison system.
Attacking the BLM movement.
Praising White Supremacists.
Renewing attacks on our LGBT brothers and sisters.
Destroying Net Neutrality.
Decimating clean water and clean air standards.
Banning certain words from useage at the Center for Disease Control.
Oil drilling off our coasts.
Packing the Federal bench with pro-corporate rightwing extremist judges.
Cutting funding to Meals on Wheels.



To name a few.

[smirkymonkey]

1. K&R

[Scurrilous]

2. K&R

[Wwcd]

3. Thanks for this post

Where does that statement originate..that both parties are the same?
Just asking..


Because they have always been completely opposite.

[SHRED]

4. I'm not sure where it originated but I see and hear it

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Well the previous mantra was

"But drones...."
"But TPP..."

[Tarc]

12. It originates in the Jill Stein wing of left-leaning political circles

[Wwcd]

15. Thanks..should have known

The Jill Stein wing of left wing politics.
Figures.

[Bleacher Creature]

5. Rolling back protections against victims of sexual assault on college campuses. NT

[SHRED]

6. Yep

[herding cats]

8. I've never understood how people believe that.

Every time we get a Republican in office the myth is once again proven to be false. Yet we hear it constantly when we're in power.

It boggles my mind that people can be that blind to the reality of what's taking place around them.

[erronis]

20. But it's "Change"! Don't we all want "Change"? That word should be outlawed

Unless the proponents specifically point out what they will "change", how it will affect us and how much it will cost.

Not promises but an independent audit. CBO and an international audit.

[herding cats]

26. The word change is a bit like the saying "May you live in interesting times."

It sounds great if we're talking about interesting as in good, but bad is also interesting in that it's never dull.

Change is as subjective as that old saying is. If you use it in the wrong context on the right audience you can literally get them to trade you their own better interest for a change that isn't going to be anything like what they assumed, but it is most definitely changes to their way of life.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

9. K&R nt

[mgardener]

10. Attacking the press

Attacking journalist
Attacking FBI
Obnoxious and frequent tweets
Putting an idiot in charge of Education Dept.
Having daughter and son in law in White House.
Colluded with Russia?
Money laundering?
Abuse of power?
I could go on, but thought someone else should have a chance

[orangecrush]

11. "both parties are the same"

and "but what about" are Russian disinformation techniques.

[SunSeeker]

13. Yep. nt

[Upthevibe]

27. I'm up against something that's troubling to me....

Basically, I'm very into spirituality, new thought, self-actualization... (Definitely NOT religion). I'm a recovering alcoholic and have had some experiences that I really believe have saved my life and have prompted me to move in the direction in which I'm going. Most of my friends are politically active. However, I have a couple of friends and acquaintances who are "spiritual" and "stay out of politics." One has used the term "political atheist" to describe herself. Another was telling me yesterday how a friend of hers (who's HIV and who I know too) got into housing and only has to pay $27 a month! And we're in Los Angeles! She proceeded to tell me...."It's in the Hollywood area, only a studio but really cute......, etc", I let her know that this is Government Housing (I don't like that term) and that it's most likely going to be eliminated now because of the Republicans...........(I didn't want to get into the whole BORING tax cut conversation since none of it e/affects her or the people she knows so why the fuck should she be bothered?!?!?!?).............WHY CAN'T SEEMINGLY SMART PEOPLE CONNECT THE DOTS THAT A FOUR YEAR OLD COULD??????

[SunSeeker]

32. I hope your friend realizes being a "political athiest" IS a political position. nt

[Cha]

14. Thank you, crush

[orangecrush]

17. welcome!

The technique comes from Duginism.

[FakeNoose]

16. We didn't need a crystal ball in 2016

We always knew Trump would be a disaster. From Day One!

By the way I haven't heard anyone say "both parties are the same" for at least a year.
Most people get it now.

[SHRED]

18. Check this out

Someone I know posted this on FB yesterday.

[FakeNoose]

19. Wow, critical thinking skills are completely absent

[SHRED]

21. Yep...politically speaking

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I will add.
People are complex.

[murielm99]

38. The queen is a badass.

She drove a truck and served in the military during World War II.

[mcar]

22. Decimating women's rights

[SHRED]

23. Yes

[AllaN01Bear]

24. i get ruffled when i hear that statement

[SHRED]

25. Hopefully that list helps

I post it as a reply and it shuts them up 95% of the time.

[AllaN01Bear]

29. it does .

[SHRED]

30. .

[shanny]

28. Just out of curiosity,

Who do you know who says that, and why do you think they are listening?

[SHRED]

31. They are dwindling

Trump is making it clearer to those who are politically dense. Some are wising up.

[WyLoochka]

33. Bookmarked!

Great reference list, Shred. thx

[treestar]

34. Exactly

That is one of the most uninformed assertions on the planet.

[calimary]

35. GOOD one, SHRED!

Excellent resource material. Heck, print this out to study for easy rebuttals!

[Steven Maurer]

36. They just scream "corporatist" "war crimes" and warmed over 70s communist rhetoric

It won't work with them.

People who assert that both parties are loons. Don't try to persuade those people. Warn others about them.

[Demoiselle]

37. Yes. (eom.)

[Hermit-The-Prog]

39. but what about her EMAILZ!!!

Surely destruction of air, land, water, education and social safety nets is a small price to pay to eliminate the clouds and shadows hanging over a PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER!

(I am hunkered down in a very poor part of the country where nearly 80% of my neighbors voted for the thing in the Whitehouse. I have an excuse for being unhinged).