You can be sure that Mueller and Rosenstein are ready!

[tableturner]

They have known right from the beginning that criminal actions by Trump to stop the investigation were at least plausible, and every day since, it has to have become more and more likely in their minds. They are too experienced, skilled, and knowledgeable to be unprepared for this eventuality.

I would bet a lot of money that they have a protocol in place, not just between them, but also including the presiding judge, for actions to take if a firing or other acutely obstructive move were to be made by Trump.

I think it's very likely that there are a slew of indictments ready to be unsealed when a preset level of malevolent actions force the issue.

If existing indictments are sealed (and I believe that's the case), the reason would be to protect the investigation, but a nuanced protection of the investigation would be rendered moot, and the reasons for any indictments being sealed would be superseded, by an immediate existential threat to the investigation.

I could see the following scenario, or something similar, happening soon: There is a bulletin on TV telling you Mueller has been fired. An hour later another bulletin lets you know that a federal court has unsealed and handed down dozens of serious indictments of Trump's crew, along with multiple serious unindicted co-conspirator charges (not just obstruction) aimed at Trump himself, all accompanied by ironclad evidence.

If they were to get word ahead of time, or if they simply were to conclude that a climactic obstructive move would be about to take place, the unsealing of indictments could happen earlier, in an effort to preempt any of Trump's criminal actions before he could make them.

And yes, I believe they already have many indictments ready. This has been investigated for a good while, long before Mueller, and the Trump crew left a huge trail of bread crumbs (loaves, actually!), known and unknown flippers have been providing documentation (there likely are at least a handful we don't know about), and then add in all the unknown investigatory elements. I believe all of that makes sealed indictments very likely.

We'll see....

[mucifer]

1. All 3 branches of government are controlled by republicans. They may be powerless.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are unable to release anything.

[tableturner]

2. Sealed indictments can't be undone.

[mucifer]

5. I hope you are right. But, the republicans don't seem interested in the rule of law.

Did I mention they control all 3 branches of government.

[pnwmom]

27. NY isn't powerless. Maryland isn't powerless. California isn't powerless.

Those Attorney Generals aren't going to give up. It might just take longer.

[Pachamama]

3. I agree with you

And I believe they have multiple people at various levels of the courts and state attorneys ready too....

Along with evidence backed up and in the right hands....

But I particularly agree with you about the protocols and also that they are already sealed indictments....

[tableturner]

4. Yes, the states (especially New York) are ready too!

[byronius]

6. There are also the other Western intelligence agencies that have mirrored Mueller.

They'll release everything they have if Mueller is stopped.

Tapes and all. The Dutch release of their hacking intel is the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

[underpants]

8. Will keep that in mind

Thanks.

[AllyCat]

38. Seems maybe you have the same feeling as I do.

Our trust is in other nations right now, not our own government. There are people in our government still interested in the rule of law, but they don’t seem to be the ones holding power.

[regnaD kciN]

16. To which Trump will tweet "FAKE NEWS!" and Congress will shrug...

[RestoreAmerica2020]

20. Unless senior gop senators and or reps are indicted..

..perhaps McConnel and Ryan, and Putin's favorite rep.-- ratonbacher, that is according to blabber mouth McCarthy 'Putin pays trumpf and rohrabacher' ...then that'll send the rest of the gop ratones scrabbling--self preservation will be their only motive.

[Demtexan]

31. If the senior gop senator and reps were indicted the rest would run.

Like roaches in a room with the light turned on.

[Dawson Leery]

29. +1,000,000

[babylonsister]

7. You made me feel a lot better!

You're right-they know who they are dealing with. I remain optimistic.

[Arazi]

9. The shit hit the fan today. It's now or never for Mueller

He has hours not days to counter this or the Rs propaganda machine wipes out Rosenstein and him.

[Kirk Lover]

10. Yeah really these guys are no slouches. They are 5 steps ahead of tRUMP and the Co. This stupid

memo bullshit is going to be a short term 'win' for these scumbags. I sincerely hope this blows up in their treason caucus faces.

[RKP5637]

26. IMO at this stage treason is prominent for many, perhaps even Trump himself. All of these

shenanigans indicate one thing, there is a lot of crime and guilt going on.

[TomSlick]

11. Mueller and Rosenstein are smarter than the Orange Abomination and his lawyers.

I am confident there is a plan. The suggested scenario makes sense. But if not that, there is a plan.

[Miigwech]

12. Mueller gets to see obstruction of justice

case build, in real time. trump thinks he will win but we know differently ... our country will stop this political Kabuki by repubs.

[pbmus]

13. The only problem with any of this potential reality is....

You have to have enough people who care about the rules....

[tableturner]

14. When they are ready to end our democracy, the multitudes WILL care!

[pbmus]

15. I pray, meditate and hope you are correct in your assumptions...

[regnaD kciN]

17. When they are ready to end our democracy...

...it will be too late for the multitudes to care. It'll be gone in a flash.

[Lonestarblue]

18. What happens if Mueller indicts trump for obstruction of justice and money laundering?

Some lawyers have stated that a sitting president cannt be indicted, but if he is and the Republicans do nothing, what happens then? Trump can’t pardon himself for obstructing justice, and the money laundering would likely move to New York courts, but would any trial have to wait until he leaves office?

[Stonepounder]

19. Unfortunately, here is an all to plausible response:

Trump fires Mueller & Rosenstein
Muller drops the indictments
Trump announces that Mueller and the FBI are complicit in an attempted overthrow of the government
Kelly & the Generals agree
Trump declares the suspension of the Constitution and declares martial law until 'the current crisis is resolved'.
10 years from now President-for-Life Kushner declares that the state of emergency is still in effect.
New rules go into effect:
-the Democratic Party is dissolved
-Muslims must wear a orange crescent on their clothes
-everyone is required to carry proof-of-citizenship on them persons at all times
-large pictures of Kushner and Putin shaking hands adorn municipal buildings.
-Since the Constitution has been suspended, there is no need for SCOTUS.

[yonder]

21. chilling

[irisblue]

24. So what kind of pizza do you like?

[certainot]

28. the only way anything like this happens is if liberals ignore rw radio

which they continue to do

all this is enabled by 1500 radio stations helping trump, and the 88 universities that continue to support 260 of those limbaugh stations

[Juliusseizure]

30. Its not that impressive a memo

From what I know, its just a desperate political tool to stop Trump from having to be interviewed and stop the probe.

Everything you said is possible. The main stumbling block is about 65% of the population would be strongly opposed, and last I knew the military was still fighting for American ideals like democracy and the constitution that the GOP rejects.

But yes we're in the shit, and if the GOP reject the rule of law, then they should expect mass lawlessness and, even worse from their view, god forbid a dramatic stock market drop and economic mayhem.

[ooky]

37. You forgot FBI is replaced by Gestapo.

[BigmanPigman]

22. WE HAVE TO WIN THE MIDTERMS!!!!

Please, volunteer as much time and money as possible. Knock on doors, make phone calls, make small donations, drive people to the polls. This is our only chance until 2020!
48% of Americans want to see the impeachment if the investigation calls for it. The House GOP is the enemy as much as Putin and the Fucking Moron. The GOP is NOT representing its constituents. VOTE THEM OUT!

[Beartracks]

25. The GOP *is* representing its constituents. But their constituents...

... are not Americans, not us, not citizens. Their constituents are only their donors and benefactors, both domestic... and foreign.

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[peggysue2]

32. Good one on you, tableturner

I believe what you believe that the sealed indictments are the ultimate trump card that Mueller has and will use in the event the Trumpster and his vile minions try to pull an overarching obstructive event/action. Trump and his sycophants have proved they are completely corrupt individuals, willing to go to any lengths to turn the Rule of Law on its head to save their own pathetic skins.

But not everyone is corrupt or corruptible.

Mueller, Comey, the majority of the professional staff inside our DOJ, FBI and the network of AGs across the country are out there, Dems and Republicans alike, ready to fight the good fight, excise the treasonous, criminal elements within the body politic. The Rule of Law will stand. And we as citizens will be reminded once again how important our Constitutional Republic truly is. Maybe we'll even become better caretakers.

The Battle is coming.

[pbmus]

35. Bless your analysis....

[tableturner]

39. Thanks, the battle is coming and we need to be ready to fight!

[RandomAccess]

33. I sure hope you're right

[rockfordfile]

34. They are both republicans just like Trump. I'm skeptical of them.

[tableturner]

36. They are not "republicans just like Trump". I have seen nothing that should

make you skeptical. Rosenstein has stood firm and Mueller is respected by top Democrats in the know.