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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you vote for someone that you knew was dishonest, lied all the time, could never be trusted?
What can we surmise from people that would vote for such a person?
Other than ignorance?
Immorality, untrustworthy, petty, no empathy, no redeeming qualities.
Who would vote for such a person?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Well done... We put a reddit troll into the highest office and told him to go crazy.
Alpeduez21
(1,751 posts)sanction racism
and because there is an R after the name.
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)We just have to as voters vote our conscience.
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Trump was not elected by the majority of voters.
He was elected by the majority in the electoral college, an anachronism we need to end with a constitutional amendment.
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)The electoral college is an anachronism.
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 30, 2018, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)
as we well know.
The majority of voters who voted DT voted due to anxiety about those that are not straight white people.
The majority of voters - as well as the majority of voters who voted on economic issues went with our candidate.
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)I have made no comment about the national popular vote only my local county.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Sophia4 maybe?
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sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Welcome to DU.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)or
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)I was not referring to Hillary other than to say she really won the election.
Only our antiquated, outdated system with an electoral college put Trump in the White House. Trump is an imposter in my opinion. He did not win the election -- not if you measure winning by a democratic standards -- the only fair standard in my view.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)However, that seems to be irrelevant to many who think that louder = more numerous.
Amirite?
A quick search of "Journal entries" sheds some light on the answer to that.
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mcar
(42,334 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)I was responding to a post, not to the original post in this thread.
Hillary won the popular vote and should be president in my view.
George II
(67,782 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)60% of the poster's county voted for Trump.
Hillary won the popular vote, and in my view (I'm from California) should be president right now. I have not patience with the electoral college which put Trump, an imposter, in the White House in my view.
I was responding to the post right above mine, not to the original post.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)and also knew he had slept with a porno star.
lark
(23,102 posts)- Person pays no attention to what's happening and sees faux snooze when they are at dentist or doctors so believes it
- Person is a neo-Nazi, KKK, etc. type
- Person is a racist and that's the main driver of their life
- Person is rich or thinks they will be rich someday
- Person doesn't think (duh) and just reflexively votes repug even if the nominee is a criminal, traitor, and total liar.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Response to ehrnst (Reply #45)
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lapucelle
(18,265 posts)because they need to be "inspired" to perform the most crucial and fundamental responsibility of citizenship.
bluestarone
(16,959 posts)or a tRUMP fan would be my second guess
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)kentuck
(111,098 posts)So it was something besides their economic condition. But, they were angry.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Watching Fox News could make a person who has a lot of money pretty miserable.
I bet there is a correlation between watching Fox News and voting for Trump.
But always remember, Trump did not win a majority of the popular votes. He lost California big-time. He lost by 3 million votes, I believe. We often forget that.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And who they could not make legal choices to keep out of their workplaces and off their teevees, and out of SCOTUS, and out of the whitest, most exclusive gated residence in the world...
Those who were angry about their lack of economic choices voted for Hillary. Those who were angry about black and brown public figures, older women in authority, and LGBTQ "perverts" voted for Trump.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/
msongs
(67,413 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)How do they conduct business with each other (buy used cars, life insurance, etc.) knowing that both parties involved worship the God King of liars, back-stabbers, and cheats? And how could they leave their spouses alone in a room with their friends?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)What sort of ignorant, immoral, petty, untrustworthy "progressive" would spread the false propaganda that we saw smeared all over social media about her - even from the left? And some right here on DU.
Who could trust such a person who would do that?
What could motivate them other than ignorance?
What can we surmise from that sort of self-defeating undermining that was a huge plus for DOTUS?
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Though I occasionally married them...
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Unfortunately, those were the voters who foisted off an immoral, untrustworthy, petty asshole completely devoid of empathy and redeeming qualities on the American people, and according to this demon, they're the only ones who matter to him because they all fawn all over him.
Vinca
(50,273 posts)mreilly
(2,120 posts).... but they're deluded enough to believe he would never lie to THEM.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)own lives. They must accept friends/family/lovers lying right to their face and they don't question them. That is the only way I can explain how they enjoy being lied to. So far I have not received a response to my statement.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)... assured themselves such tales were from jealous, partisan Liberals. Or, more likely, they heard nothing at all, being inside a media bubble as so many of them are.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. It's a major political party in America.
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But then, I'm not a Republican.
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)"If you were being brainwashed by Fox News and you could stop it by changing the channel, would you do it?"
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)I have a family member who says that they do not support Trump, but every other rightwing meme they post is attacking the so called "liberal media" for criticizing Trump.
The first thing they do with brainwashing is to convince you that you are not being brainwashed but learning some exclusive truth. Anything that does not conform to your ideology then it is enemy. I always ask this family member first to define "liberal media" then to list what the "liberal media" consists of. I never get an answer just continuing right wing memes.
I would imagine that people who voted for Trump, unless they were extremely honest and said that they were completely taken in by a con man with populist rhetoric, or they voted to maintain a White, Male, Christian hegemony, that they could not give a decent answer.
catrose
(5,068 posts)Since they were okay with such a candidate
Bettie
(16,110 posts)The answer is really simple: someone who is also dishonest and untrustworthy.
The saddest thing about this election is that masks were ripped off and people who I once thought were decent people have turned out to be amoral and dishonest people hiding that fact until it became socially acceptable not to.
It has become socially acceptable now to be the worst versions of themselves and a lot of people have moved quickly to do so. They revel in their allegiance to their orange clown leader and in their hatred of anyone who isn't them.
betsuni
(25,536 posts)What can we surmise about people who would swallow such bullshit, other than ignorance?
Everyone who did that is immoral, untrustworthy, petty, no empathy, no redeeming qualities and fucking stupid. Who would listen to such a person?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)in Mar-a-Lago. He won.
Guess who he voted for? yup, he voted for trump.
When I heard him say that, I just...I don't understand this world.