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SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:36 PM Jan 2018

Trump trying to overthrow democracy is 'inevitable',

Donald Trump trying to stage a coup and overthrow democracy is 'inevitable', says top US historian

'There are certainly elements of his approach which are fascistic,' says Professor Timothy Snyder

Benjamin Kentish @BenKentish Monday 1 May 2017 18:19 BST

It is “inevitable” that Donald Trump will try to stage a coup and overthrow American democracy, a prominent US historian has claimed.

Professor Timothy Snyder, a leading academic at Yale University, said the US President was already displaying “fascistic” tendencies and could be tempted by a new political system that does not rely on elections.

Asked whether he thought Mr Trump would seek to replicate Adolf Hitler’s move to take full control of government by declaring a state of emergency, Professor Snyder told the Salon website: “I think it’s pretty much inevitable that they will try. The reason? I think that is that the conventional ways of being popular are not working out for them.

“The conventional way to be popular or to be legitimate in this country is to have some policies, to grow your popularity ratings and to win some elections. I don’t think 2018 is looking very good for the Republicans along those conventional lines.

“This means they could be seduced by the notion of getting into a new rhythm of politics, one that does not depend upon popular policies and electoral cycles."

Despite his belief that Mr Trump will take use measures to secure his position, Professor Snyder said he thought the US state was strong enough to withhold an illegitimate attempt to seize control of it.

“My gut feeling is that Trump and his administration will try and that it won’t work”, he said. “Not so much because we are so great but because we have a little bit of time to prepare. I also think that there are enough people and enough agencies of the government who have also thought about this, and would not necessarily go along.”


* We are there already

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-stage-coup-democracy-professor-timothy-snyder-yale-adolf-hitler-a7712041.html
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Trump trying to overthrow democracy is 'inevitable', (Original Post) SummerSnow Jan 2018 OP
He would be delighted MFM008 Jan 2018 #1
It does seem inevitable. sofa king Jan 2018 #2
Inevitable? Lindsay Jan 2018 #3

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
2. It does seem inevitable.
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jan 2018

As I keep saying, laws and regulations are mere hurdles to be overcome on the way to getting Trump's way.

Furthermore, I think there is a dark precedent lurking within the hidden files of the Bush the Dumber Era. I think that in November, 2005, they were within a matter of days of pulling the trigger on a coup, to protect themselves from all of the evil they had done during the previous year's election. "Operation Granite Shadow," was a component of it, I thought at the time. Might be worth returning to now, to see if anything else has turned up.

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