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Coolist Pix EVER - Starman on way to Mars and beyond (Original Post) packman Feb 2018 OP
Breaking News: it missed its' Mars orbit and is now heading to an applegrove Feb 2018 #1
Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do. dchill Feb 2018 #3
A guy was at the wheel and didn't stop to ask for directions packman Feb 2018 #12
LOL! applegrove Feb 2018 #15
It is The Stig! Roland99 Feb 2018 #17
ha ha ha trixie2 Feb 2018 #26
I hope by the time it's back and visible in telescopes TlalocW Feb 2018 #2
That would be too cool! MLAA Feb 2018 #4
Coming back is not part of the plan. writerJT Feb 2018 #5
I thought it was going to do a Mars-sun orbit? TlalocW Feb 2018 #10
The Loc-Nar...lol Snackshack Feb 2018 #19
Yes, that was the original plan. greyl Feb 2018 #21
Yes and no. The orbit is between Earth's and the asteroid belt muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #35
Or it's up on blocks and the stereo's missing. briv1016 Feb 2018 #27
Really says a lot of the human race randr Feb 2018 #6
I know, I really have not been able to figure out how I feel about this. Tipperary Feb 2018 #13
Space is space. It is nothingness Roland99 Feb 2018 #18
Your point is well taken... Snackshack Feb 2018 #28
Weve been hurling trash into it since the 50s BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #29
not putting anthing there that didn't exist before..just a different arrangement of atoms Demonaut Feb 2018 #33
That's what I thought MFM008 Feb 2018 #36
Space cadet? Or just another dummy? struggle4progress Feb 2018 #7
Too bad he didnt use a replica of this car... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #8
Takin' a ride... flying rabbit Feb 2018 #9
This is going to be such an embarrassment if some visiting aliens come across it. Canoe52 Feb 2018 #11
They will think it is some religious ritual DBoon Feb 2018 #14
Alien life would gain from a good WTF moment. alfredo Feb 2018 #16
Whats really going to be embarrassing.... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #30
I keep waiting to see.. getagrip_already Feb 2018 #20
Why wasn't a scientific satellite sent instead? SHRED Feb 2018 #22
The cost Shadowsmith Feb 2018 #24
Okay...that makes more sense SHRED Feb 2018 #25
'Bye, Starman Sam McGee Feb 2018 #23
Vintage Bowie - Starman CentralMass Feb 2018 #31
In the far distant future when mankind has forgotten about this stunt... Kablooie Feb 2018 #32
And they will think that whoever did this had style. CentralMass Feb 2018 #39
Couple of weeks ago madamesilverspurs Feb 2018 #34
Wish David Bowie had lived to see this. Vinca Feb 2018 #37
Strange all the negative responses here... cbdo2007 Feb 2018 #38

applegrove

(118,829 posts)
1. Breaking News: it missed its' Mars orbit and is now heading to an
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:30 PM
Feb 2018

asteroid belt somewhere else. CBC News

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
2. I hope by the time it's back and visible in telescopes
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:32 PM
Feb 2018

I'm assuming the camera batteries will be dead then... I hope it's covered in graffiti that looks like it's written in some sort of alien language. I'm hoping Musk programmed something like that to happen.

TlalocW

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
10. I thought it was going to do a Mars-sun orbit?
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:54 PM
Feb 2018

Guess not which is probably for the best. It would probably bring back the Loc-Nar.

TlalocW

greyl

(22,990 posts)
21. Yes, that was the original plan.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:24 AM
Feb 2018
The initial plan was to have the Roadster head toward Mars orbit. Instead, the payload overshot, exceeding the red planet's spot in the solar system, and is headed toward the Asteroid Belt that's between Mars and Jupiter.

It's likely this is the last we'll ever see of the car and Starman — though they'll likely be in orbit for millions of years.


http://www.businessinsider.com/last-photo-of-starman-and-tesla-roadster-after-falcon-heavy-launch-2018-2

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
35. Yes and no. The orbit is between Earth's and the asteroid belt
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:24 AM
Feb 2018



perihelion = 0.98 AU, which means it will cross earth's orbit (I'm not sure how the 3rd dimension works out - I'd expect it's basically in the same plane as Earth, because it takes extra thrust to change the plane*). I hope someone is calculating when it will next approach Earth.

* - on further searching, this claims it's at an angle of 29 degrees to the solar system plane - which seems very surprising - I'd think a lot of energy would have to go into that. It probably would mean it'll never get near Earth again, though, since the only times it's close enough to the sun, it'll be well outside the plane of Earth's orbit.

---

Update: an astronomer has updated orbital parameters for it, and they roughly agree with this site: https://www.projectpluto.com/temp/spacex.htm




That says inclination 1.1 degrees, ie hardly anything, which is far more believable. Also, that aphelion of 1.7 Astronomical Units is only just beyond Mars' (which is 1.67), and nothing like the 2.61 AU that Musk's earlier tweet had. In a way, that's more reassuring, because if they had planned to send it in a Hohmann orbit shuttling between Mars's and Earth's orbits, they've more or less achieved that.

randr

(12,417 posts)
6. Really says a lot of the human race
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:44 PM
Feb 2018

Not enough to trash the planet, we now seem proud to polute space

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
13. I know, I really have not been able to figure out how I feel about this.
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:08 PM
Feb 2018

On the one hand it’s fascinating. On the other, it bothers me for the same reason you said.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
18. Space is space. It is nothingness
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:12 AM
Feb 2018

And what of voyager 1 and 2?

The satellites that enable weather forecasting, climatology, intl communications, etc

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
28. Your point is well taken...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:19 AM
Feb 2018

But Space X needed to use something to simulate the weight of a capsule/ crew/ supplies etc for the rocket test so instead of weighted container we got this which IMO is much cooler.

But I get your point. It is sad that we have sent so much junk into space that the crew of the ISS has to always be ready for and on several occasions has had to prep for emergency evac due to an intersecting vector with our space garbage.

Canoe52

(2,949 posts)
11. This is going to be such an embarrassment if some visiting aliens come across it.
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:59 PM
Feb 2018

A terrestrial vehicle just floating around space with a dummy at the wheel?

Hell, when I think about it, I'm embarrassed! really, why do this?







 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
30. Whats really going to be embarrassing....
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:32 AM
Feb 2018

Is when the fools try to talk to it. Bet they speak English.

Shadowsmith

(26 posts)
24. The cost
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:44 AM
Feb 2018

A scientific satellite would cost millions of dollars and the this was a test launch of a new system. Chances were the cargo wouldn't get to where it was wanted. And that's what happened with the car, but at least the car is trivial in cost.

This was a publicity stunt. Musk understands PR. And if this helps prop up public support for Space exploration, I'm fine with sending a car into space.

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
23. 'Bye, Starman
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:31 AM
Feb 2018

"In This Universe The Night was Falling, The Shadows were lengthening
towards an east that would not know another dawn.

But elsewhere the Stars were still young and the light of morning lingered: and
along the path he once had followed, Man would one day go again."


-- Arthur C. Clarke, The City & The Stars

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
32. In the far distant future when mankind has forgotten about this stunt...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:30 AM
Feb 2018

Someone will find this and it will confound the hell out of them.

madamesilverspurs

(15,810 posts)
34. Couple of weeks ago
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:51 AM
Feb 2018

I was doing insomnia. Turned on the TV and landed on Star Trek: Voyager, and the episode started with them finding an old red pickup floating in space. And they didn't know what it was.


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cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
38. Strange all the negative responses here...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 08:47 AM
Feb 2018

I mean, it's not my first day on DU so I know what to expect...but this piece of "space junk" is so small in the scope of the vastness of space, it is the equivalent of dropping a grain of sand in the ocean and saying you are clouding it up.

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