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babylonsister

(171,096 posts)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 10:10 AM Feb 2018

A prominent veterans leader just went viral with a brutal response to Trumps military parade plans

http://washingtonpress.com/2018/02/07/prominent-veterans-leader-just-went-viral-brutal-response-trumps-military-parade-plans/

February 8, 2018
Washington Press
Politics
A prominent veterans’ leader just went viral with a brutal response to Trump’s military parade plans

By Benjamin Locke
Published on February 7, 2018


Reactions to President Trump’s desire for a large-scale military parade on the streets of the nation’s capital have ranged why it is reminiscent of what authoritarian dictators do to open ridicule to anger over what a gigantic waste of money it would be.

Adam Weinstein, a Navy veteran who is now Senior Editor for the website Task and Purpose, in which military and former service members share ideas and news, covers all those bases and more in an epic rant about what a terrible idea Trump is pushing from the point of view of those who would be forced to march for his inspection.

“Let’s throw a military bash with missles and troops and bands for this rampaging golf-course rentier,” writes Weinstein in an essay dripping with sarcasm, “because nobody’s ever done anything like that before, except the Soviet Union, the People’s Republic of China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Cuba, Libya under Qaddafi, Iraq under Saddam, Zaire under Mobutu, the Nazi Reich under Hitler,” and many other dictators and dspots in Spain, Chile, Iran, Uganda, Yougoslavia, Romania and Serbia.”


At a time the stock market is being “whiplashed,” thousands are dying in the opioid crisis, the suicide rate is up and rural areas are being left behind by politicians and the economy, what does Trump want – a parade.

“This is the America that our military is defending,” rants Weinstein. “It is not going well. The Afghanistan War, the United States’ longest in its history, has no obvious end; the general’s in charge now were field grade officers when the war started. The forever war is turning out so many veterans that the VA can’t keep up – and the department is largely trying to fire its way out of the problem, without filling any of its top spots or hiring any or its neary 50,000 job vacancies.”

“Some American war veterans are facing deportation. Others, with other than honorable discharges, are foundering with next to no help.”

And what is Trump’s answer: “Let’s throw a fucking military parade.”

“Let’s do it for the duly elected commander-in-chief,” continues Weinstein, “who was born on third base and blames the world for not just scoring it as a run. Whose entire ‘military’ service consists of a private boarding-school diploma and five draft deferments.”

“Who used the commissioning ceremony of the Coast Guard Academy’s graduating cadets to bitch about the media’s coverage of him, when he wasn’t confusing the Coast Guard with the Navy.”

“Who couldn’t stand still or remember the words for the National Anthem at Arlington on Memorial Day, next to his secretary of defense and Joint Chief’s chairman (but he’s still pretty sure NFL players of color who don’t show sufficient anthem-patriotism should be fired).”

“Who likes ‘people who weren’t captured;’ tells Gold Star families he’s ‘made a lot of sacrifices,’ and calls safe sex in the 1990s ‘my personal Vietnam’ and blames ‘the generals’ for battle casualties.”

“Let’s make America a banana republic,” concludes Weinstein. “Let’s have a fucking parade. For Don.

“You don’t need this. I don’t need this. But he sure does.”


This outspoken veteran may be over the top in his passion and anger, but he makes valid points and represents many others inside the military, who have served and who never served, when he says at a time America has so many big problems, a parade is not the answer.
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A prominent veterans leader just went viral with a brutal response to Trumps military parade plans (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2018 OP
I didn't see one sentence I would call over the top. He nailed it pretty good. shraby Feb 2018 #1
Concur sarge43 Feb 2018 #15
I agree, I just sent an email to the article's author about it Perseus Feb 2018 #19
Agreed. kag Feb 2018 #20
I know, right! That's what I said Cha Feb 2018 #34
Yes indeed he did nail it, and rather decisively. calimary Feb 2018 #36
K&R Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #2
Not over the top at all atreides1 Feb 2018 #3
The OP barely scratched the surface. world wide wally Feb 2018 #4
Two thumbs up! AJT Feb 2018 #5
Outstanding! PatSeg Feb 2018 #6
Not over the top. rainin Feb 2018 #7
Not even halfway up the hill, let alone over the top. Stonepounder Feb 2018 #8
Over the top? He forgot COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA flibbitygiblets Feb 2018 #9
K & R to infinity..... dhill926 Feb 2018 #10
K & R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #11
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #12
He isn't "over the top." Not at all. Glorfindel Feb 2018 #13
We want a March for Peace! Glaisne Feb 2018 #14
K&R bdamomma Feb 2018 #16
No parade. leanforward Feb 2018 #17
Trump does not want to salute the military. He wants the world to see the military salute him. keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #38
K&R! William769 Feb 2018 #18
Mr Locke, this is a veteran's going over the top. Note the difference sarge43 Feb 2018 #21
K&R lillypaddle Feb 2018 #22
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2018 #23
over the top? personally, I think he was quite restrained. niyad Feb 2018 #24
"Over the top?" BobTheSubgenius Feb 2018 #25
Not one bit over the top, but thank YOU for this thread. Trump is a disgrace to all! Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #26
Not over the top. Could have said the paid agent of Putin Enoki33 Feb 2018 #27
He is not over the top. He is spot on, with each an every word. BRAVO!!! lunamagica Feb 2018 #28
Let's hold the parade in San Juan! Fritz Walter Feb 2018 #29
The concensus seems to be zipplewrath Feb 2018 #30
NOTHING he said is over the top. It's spot on in this veteran's view. n/t Stand and Fight Feb 2018 #31
Trump special distraction from the Porter scandal... HipChick Feb 2018 #32
Wow! Someone's been paying Attention! Cha Feb 2018 #33
A military parade. To distract, as Schiff suggests? I hope the other veterans feel the same way this Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #35
Well said, sir. BHDem53 Feb 2018 #37
Verrrrrrrrry well said!!!! demigoddess Feb 2018 #39
It was great to read the reference to Trump's confusing the Coast Guard with the Navy! colorado_ufo Feb 2018 #40
BRILLIANT AND HEARTFELT. Thanks Babylonsister! Hekate Feb 2018 #41
It's Ernst Stavro Blowhair who's over the top. dchill Feb 2018 #42

sarge43

(28,945 posts)
15. Concur
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:23 PM
Feb 2018

He didn't go high enough. Cadet Bone Spur's "demand" needs a low earth orbit response.

Posers and poltroons do not deserve parades.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
19. I agree, I just sent an email to the article's author about it
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:40 PM
Feb 2018

The man-child is the one who has gone over the top for a long time.

These people who write articles seem to be scared of putting their full force into their writings, they seem to feel the have to be "balanced" when the other side's actions and words are not balanced at all, they say and do whatever they want and feel they can get away with.

Enough with "political correctness", things must be spelled out, the ears one wants to reach will not understand it unless it is very clear.

atreides1

(16,094 posts)
3. Not over the top at all
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 10:22 AM
Feb 2018

Maybe what we need is a little more passion and anger!!

Just the opinion of another veteran!

rainin

(3,011 posts)
7. Not over the top.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:23 AM
Feb 2018

This is spot on. Nowadays, an argument that makes sense is considered "far left". How far we have fallen....

dhill926

(16,364 posts)
10. K & R to infinity.....
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:52 AM
Feb 2018

we need more of this from vets who have been there. Cut the orange fuckstick off at the knees...

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
17. No parade.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:28 PM
Feb 2018

To me, his wanting a parade is something he saw with the french. It seems to me our limited military parades have been related to a significant national event. And, even then, the parades have been limited in scope.

keithbvadu2

(36,937 posts)
38. Trump does not want to salute the military. He wants the world to see the military salute him.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 09:24 PM
Feb 2018

Trump does not want to salute the military.
He wants the world to see the military salute him.


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sarge43

(28,945 posts)
21. Mr Locke, this is a veteran's going over the top. Note the difference
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:51 PM
Feb 2018

Yo Cadet, about jerking off to a parade...on behalf of some of us, a lot of us








Enoki33

(1,588 posts)
27. Not over the top. Could have said the paid agent of Putin
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:11 PM
Feb 2018

was not legitimately elected or that he sold out, and continues to do so.

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
29. Let's hold the parade in San Juan!
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:21 PM
Feb 2018

We could outsource the logistics to the same corrupt contractors who profited from lucrative, no-bid FEMA contracts.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
30. The concensus seems to be
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:20 PM
Feb 2018

That it isn't over the top.

I have to agree. What makes it seem that way is that usually when one goes on a tear like this, it is "over the top", otherwise known as hyperbole. You can take almost anyone in any position of authority and contrast their excesses with their short comings and make them out to be a big buffoon. We saw that with Clinton and Obama. People would pick the actions they liked the least, often ones with which I might actually agree, and attempt to make that the total characterization of them and their administration. It's basically distortion.

But in this case, it isn't distortion. Really, put on your Romeny hat and look at this administration from the point of view of some average conservative republican. You'd have to dig long and hard to find examples of things this administration has done that isn't cringe worthy. Cutting taxes and the SC seat are about it. Maybe some of the deregulation as well. But one can easily sit and start a list of the outrageous, counterproductive, or nonsensical actions and decisions this administration has made and it will be QUITE long. No, it's not distortion, and in reality, it is probably distortion in the opposite direction. It is hard to write a brief description of this administration that does justice to the totality of what they've done and what they are.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
33. Wow! Someone's been paying Attention!
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:40 PM
Feb 2018
“Who used the commissioning ceremony of the Coast Guard Academy’s graduating cadets to bitch about the media’s coverage of him, when he wasn’t confusing the Coast Guard with the Navy.”

“Who couldn’t stand still or remember the words for the National Anthem at Arlington on Memorial Day, next to his secretary of defense and Joint Chief’s chairman (but he’s still pretty sure NFL players of color who don’t show sufficient anthem-patriotism should be fired).”

This is just the right amount of Brutal! Is truth telling "ranting".. whatever.

Thank you, Adam Weinstein! Priceless!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. A military parade. To distract, as Schiff suggests? I hope the other veterans feel the same way this
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 06:44 PM
Feb 2018

man does.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
40. It was great to read the reference to Trump's confusing the Coast Guard with the Navy!
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:10 PM
Feb 2018

I watched him make that speech, along with my husband, and we couldn't believe what we heard when Trump said that they will be pleased and thrilled to know that he saved a lot of money on the new fighter jets that were just ordered! The cadets just applauded slightly and politely, but mostly sat there looking baffled.

My husband said, "Does he actually think that the Coast Guard has aircraft carriers?"

Clueless.

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