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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeth Abramson: "just released Navalny tapes gets us closer to seeing
the whole of the Trump-Russia coordination effort"
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1/ The Trump-Russia coordination narrative becomes much less confusingparticularly after today (more on that in a moment)if you just (a) know all the key players in the narrative, and (b) understand the relatively limited role that nearly all of them except four or five played.
6:24 PM - 8 Feb 20
2/ Here are the names to know: Trump, Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort, Gates, Sessions, Page, Papadopoulos, Clovis, Lewandowski, Hicks, Flynn, Prince, Cohen, Sater, Phares, Gordon, and Bannon. That's 18 namesbut most played a relatively small role in the narrative. I'll show you.
3/ J.D. Gordon made some trips to Hungarythe HQ of Russian intelligence in Europethat people find suspicious, and may have been present for some Sessions-Kislyak meetings, but mostly his role was being ordered by Trump to change the RNC platform to benefit Putin and doing it.
4/ Corey Lewandowski was, by his own admission, "functionally not in control" of the Trump campaign beginning April 7, though he was nominally campaign manager until May 19. His role was doing nothing to stopand possibly encouragingkey Trump-Russia (Page/Papadopoulos) contacts.
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Seth Abramson
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5/ Sam Clovis, National Co-Chair of Trump's campaign, didn'tmuch like Lewandowski and Gordonhave consequential Russia meetings. But he hired Page and Papadopous and, like Lewandowski, did nothing to stop (and rather more to encourage) Trump-Russia (Page/Papadopolous) contacts.
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Seth Abramson
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6/ You may be noticing a pattern so far: major figures in the Trump-Russia coordination narrative whose primary role was to do one of three things: (1) bring more important players into the campaign; (2) follow the orders of more important players; or (3) encourage others to act.
2h2 hours ago
7/ As far as we know, Rick Gates' role was primarily to plot with Manafortas his deputyand oversee key Trump-Russia operations like the RNC platform shift. It's not clear he had any major Russia meetings, though like Manafort he may have stood to gain financially from contacts.
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8/ Bannon's utility to Mueller is he kept his eyes open and his hands fairly clean as he watched others do worse than anything he did.
Was he in touch with Cambridge Analytica over coordinating Trump's data analytics with the Russian propaganda/psyops machine? Maybe, maybe not.
9/ I'm going somewhere with all this.
What I'm doing is clearing away the men whose primary utility to Special Counsel Mueller will be reporting on what others did, rather than on what they did themselves. You'll find the latter group is very, very small indeed. And it matters.
10/ Hope Hicks is who you emailed if you wanted to get a message to Trumpso she saw and heard everything. She also participated in events initiated by others above her in the chain of command, like assisting Trump in fashioning a false statement for Don. She wasn't an initiator.
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Seth Abramson
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1h1 hour ago
11/ Walid Phares seems to only be relevant at two points: he participates in the RNC platform-shift effort orchestrated by others and is encouraged by Clovis to travel to Moscow with Papadopoulos (a key player) in the late summer of 2016. So he saw a little and initiated nothing.
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12/ Felix Sater is *enormously* relevant as the main Trump-Russia liaison from 2002 to 2015he saves Trump from bankruptcy by creating a money pipeline between the businessman and Russian oligarchsbut his involvement during the campaign focuses on two major stunts I'll mention.
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Seth Abramson
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13/ First, Sater tries to help Trump profit off his presidential run by brokering a Trump Tower Moscow deal with Russian investors in late 2015. During the transition, he tries to be himself useful by ferrying a sanctions plan from a Putin pal to Trumpvia Trump's attorney Cohen.
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14/ But neither stunt is successful, and the former is focused on helping Trump enrich himself (and because the plan doesn't work, it can't *really* explain Trump-Russia coordination during the campaign). The 2017 stunt is mainly useful in helping us see sanctions as a big focus.
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15/ At this point we're down to Trump, Don Jr., Kushner, Manafort, Sessions, Page, Papadopoulos, Flynn, Prince, Cohen10 men. Keep in mind that while a successful criminal conspiracy may be a scheme many are aware of, the number of people carrying out the operation must be small.
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Seth Abramson
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16/ Jeff Sessions wasn't as useful as a key operator because of his high profilebut what he *could* do was use his position as a Senator and head of Trump's NatSec team to surreptitiously negotiate sanctions with the Russians on three occasions and then lie about it to Congress.
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17/ Here's where we *begin* to approach today's news: the Navalny Tape, fundamentally a story about Manafort and Papadopoulosone already indicted, one already convicted. During the campaign, Manafort made clear only a "low-level" Trump aide could make direct contact with Russia.
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18/ That's why Sessions only met with Russia's ambassadorhe had the right cover for such a meet, as a Senator, but wasn't low-profile enough to be in on meetings beyond that. Still, as the Trump-Russia conspiracy was a sanctions-for-aid deal, he *could* work the sanctions angle.
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19/ To recap where we're at: the Trump-Russia coordination conspiracy was a straight-up sanctions relief-for-specified/unspecified Russian assistance deal. Russia was able to make contact with Sessions as needed to see where Trump was atat various pointson the sanctions piece.
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20/ The key thing to understand about Erik Prince and Michael Flynn is that, like Jeff Sessions, they were major playersbut with far, far fewer scruples because they had no Senate position to lose. Trump made them operators by keeping them from the limelight during the campaign.
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21/ Prince was a shadow NatSec advisor during and after the campaign; he was never acknowledged as such. Flynn was left off Trump's first three NatSec teams, despite being Trump's lead NatSec advisor. He only came out of the shadows after Jared made it possible in the transition.
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22/ Frankly we don't *know* what the hell Prince was doing behind closed doorsthough we do know that once Trump is elected he becomes comfortable enough letting Prince out of his box that he sends him to the Seychelles to negotiate with Russia (in the form of the RDIF) directly.
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23/ For our purposes, Prince is relevant for two reasons: (1) how assiduously Trump kept him hidden, and (2) how quickly post-election he activated him as a negotiator with Russia. The interesting thing is, Michael Flynn is critical for the exact same reason and in the same ways.
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24/ Flynn, like Prince, was, it seems, too powerful/self-interested to be willing to take a risk and meet with the Russians during the campaignit only became safe for a major player like him to do so post-campaign. So Trump had Flynn negotiate with Russia during the transition.
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25/ The exception to this came early in the campaignwhen it wasn't yet clear Trump would be a major player in the primary. Flynn advised Trump throughout late 2015 and may well have reported back to Trumpor taken orders from Trumpregarding his December 2015 dinner with Putin.
26/ Don is an interesting case because (a) he's obviously a moron, but (b) his father trusts him. The result was (a) attempts to actually make contacts with Russia (because his dad trusted him for something that sensitive), and (b) those attempts failing (because Don is a moron).
27/ Don had contacts with WikiLeaks, but they may have had no more effect than Don passing on to his dad that WikiLeaks was going to be helpful to himand Trump in response inserting *praise* of WikiLeaks into every one of his stump speeches for the last 45 days of the campaign.
28/ Just so, I think that everyone on Mueller's team believes Don told his father about his June 9, 2016 meeting with Kremlin agents at Trump Tower before and after it happened. It was a ham-fisted attempt to use the AgalarovsTrump family friendsto get dirt on Hillary Clinton.
29/ The reason I call this end of things moronic andin a sensebeside the point is that, again, the Trump-Russia coordination conspiracy was a sanctions relief-for-specified/unspecified Russian aid deal. For it to work, Russia just needed a) sanctions relief, b) to do its thing.
30/ While of *course* the Trumps *wanted* direct assistance from Russia in the form of opposition researchto put a finer point on it, stolen digital propertyon Clinton, by mid-June, days after the Trump Tower meeting, it was clear that the Trumps would get *other* in-kind aid.
31/ This is what's *really* important about the Trump Tower meeting: going into it, the Trumps thought Russian aid would come in the form of valuablestolenClinton property. Within a week, the Kremlin clarified: no, we just want
sanctions relief, and we'll take care of the rest."
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asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)on Diane Feinsteins face when she came out of one of the first meetings, sessions recusal, to save his own ass, all the lies, the POS not putting the recent legislated sanction on Russia..Wall St. reacting??
Speechless, I am...
PatSeg
(47,653 posts)I'd forgotten that look, quite unlike anything I've seen from a senator. Chilling.
triron
(22,026 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)...trying to move a Jacuzzi into his window.
triron
(22,026 posts)Cha
(297,818 posts)Thanks triron
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)being at work, it's sometimes hard to view them.
Good summarization from Seth - he has a good ability to get real facts and organize them in a logical way.
triron
(22,026 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Poiuyt
(18,131 posts)If even half of this is true, they should all be in jail.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....the relevance and role of each of the players.
The only thing I disagree on with Seth is that I think it goes much deeper than the examples he provides and I believe there are things we don't know about that involve money laundering and blackmail that when its revealed will help everything fall in place and shock everyone....
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and it is still going on with Eric being involved, mostly out of the country.
Funny Seth did not mention Gorka. That rotund nazi leaning guy from...Hungary. Now we know why Hungary.
triron
(22,026 posts)Perhaps he is being 'conservative'