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raccoon

(31,126 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:04 PM Feb 2018

Why didn't Hitler try to escape to another country in 1945?

I know there are stories that he did, and none of them are credible. My understanding is that it is been pretty well-established that he did die in Fuehrerbunker.

But for the first time I wondered why didn't he try to escape? He certainly had the money and it would seem he had the means to do so.

If anyone knows of any FICTION books about this, please let me know.

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Why didn't Hitler try to escape to another country in 1945? (Original Post) raccoon Feb 2018 OP
Had Hitler tried to escape, he would have become the most famous --and hunted-- fugitive... Raster Feb 2018 #1
Particularly, Stalin as he had a personal axe to grind with Hitler. Hugin Feb 2018 #8
yeah, 20 million dead Russians is going to leave a mark Raster Feb 2018 #10
Something like 1 in 5 soviets were killed in that war Victor_c3 Feb 2018 #15
The bones fragments turned out to be Female SonofDonald Feb 2018 #13
His health, both physical and mental, was in serious decline Siwsan Feb 2018 #2
Clearly more if us need to watch Hunting Hitler BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #3
The Ancient Aliens carried him away!! LongTomH Feb 2018 #14
there are a number of fiction books along these lines unblock Feb 2018 #4
what means? zipplewrath Feb 2018 #5
It's my understanding that he feared being captured Va Lefty Feb 2018 #6
Like nearly everything he did after 1940 or so, it was due to spectacularly bad decision-making. Aristus Feb 2018 #7
+1, Hitler is a perfect example of a Pizza Gate mindset; a hater of discerning thinking uponit7771 Feb 2018 #17
Sometimes ones arrogance can make one hold on a bit too long. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #9
perhaps he waited too long,.perhaps making a final stand had some appeal dembotoz Feb 2018 #11
There's a show on History Channel SonofDonald Feb 2018 #12
I think Hitler truly believed he was the savior of the Aryan race. Jim__ Feb 2018 #16
That question requires a book length answer KatyMan Feb 2018 #18

Raster

(20,998 posts)
1. Had Hitler tried to escape, he would have become the most famous --and hunted-- fugitive...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:09 PM
Feb 2018

...on the planet. The Allies would have spared no expense to find Hitler and to bring him to justice.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
8. Particularly, Stalin as he had a personal axe to grind with Hitler.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:19 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:38 PM - Edit history (1)

There were special squads in the assault of Berlin who's only task and orders were to find Hitler.

If they didn't find him there or a reasonable explanation of his demise, I'm sure they would have continued until they had.

I recall learning they had what they suspected were bone fragments of Hitler from a ditch outside the bunker where he and Ava Braun had been immolated after their suicides. Those fragments were sent to Stalin and were kept in the Soviet archives for many years. Stalin was never completely convinced they hadn't missed Hitler.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
15. Something like 1 in 5 soviets were killed in that war
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:39 PM
Feb 2018

Crazy! Roughly 19% of their population was killed in that war

Siwsan

(26,295 posts)
2. His health, both physical and mental, was in serious decline
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:09 PM
Feb 2018

The injuries from the failed assassination attempt, his serious drug addictions, the theory that he may have had Parkinson's Disease - he was a mess. Who knows what emotional/psychological conditions he DIDN'T have - it was a perfect storm.

unblock

(52,331 posts)
4. there are a number of fiction books along these lines
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:12 PM
Feb 2018

here are a few:

Hitler in Argentina: The Documented Truth of Hitler's Escape from Berlin (The Hitler Escape Trilogy) by harry cooper
Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler by Simon Dunstan and‎ Gerrard Williams
Hunting Hitler: New Scientific Evidence That Hitler Escaped Nazi Germany by by Jerome R. Corsi


note the author of the last one -- mr. swift boater and right-wing hatchet man himself.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. what means?
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

He was surrounded. He really had no credible path of escape. At best he would have had to get to Spain and I'm not sure how he would have done that. He had no credible air force left. He couldn't have carried enough fuel without drawing attention to his convoy. He couldn't have acquired fuel on the way, it was extremely scarce. He couldn't have gone east, for one thing he had decimated most of it.

Without researching it, most of those that escaped, did so well before Hitler would have chosen to leave. Lesser leaders were hauled off to Nuremberg. If they couldn't escape, I suspect Hitler had no prayer.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
6. It's my understanding that he feared being captured
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:15 PM
Feb 2018

He saw what happened to Mussolini and was deeply upset by that. Also considering the many atrocities committed in the East, who knows what Stalin would have done with him.

Aristus

(66,467 posts)
7. Like nearly everything he did after 1940 or so, it was due to spectacularly bad decision-making.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:18 PM
Feb 2018

He waited until it was nearly impossibly to get out of Berlin before finally deciding to kill himself. Every single method of escaping from Berlin included the huge risk that he would fall into Soviet hands. If he managed to surrender to the Western Allies, there is a strong possibility that they would have turned him over to the Soviets for trial and likely execution.

His primary goal short of escape was not to fall into enemy hands. He had a horror of being forced to march in an Allied victory parade.

There is also the fact that he was deluded enough to believe that 'the tide would turn' for Germany, and that any one of a number of scenarios would play out, spelling victory for the Nazis. One of the fondest delusions Hitler held was that he would be able to convince the Western Allies to join him in fighting the Soviets. He stayed in Berlin, directing his phantom armies, long after any opportunity to escape the bunker had passed.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
17. +1, Hitler is a perfect example of a Pizza Gate mindset; a hater of discerning thinking
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:45 PM
Feb 2018

... that was aided by the high amount of drugs.

Damn, ... Hitler has a little excuse for being so stupid ... republicans don't

dembotoz

(16,843 posts)
11. perhaps he waited too long,.perhaps making a final stand had some appeal
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:03 PM
Feb 2018

he did not seem to be firing on all cylinders by that time.....we will most likely never know

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
12. There's a show on History Channel
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:21 PM
Feb 2018

Called "Hunting Hitler" in its second and final season, ex intelligence operatives have really put out a good case that he escaped to South America.

And it's getting to the point that they can prove it.

It's on Tuesdays after "The Curse of Oak Island"

You should watch it.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
16. I think Hitler truly believed he was the savior of the Aryan race.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:41 PM
Feb 2018

I doubt he could accept life as a failure and fugitive from justice.

KatyMan

(4,211 posts)
18. That question requires a book length answer
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
Feb 2018

And I would recommend that you read a some biographies, particularly Ian Kershaw's and Joachim Fest's. Also Richard Evans' Third Reich books. He would have never left Germany, he was frail, paranoid beyond belief and obsessed with 'going down with the ship' because all of Germany "betrayed him", much like the 'November criminals' of his (and others) imagination from WWI.

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