Why are we ignoring the three Democratic Senators who voted against the bipartisan plan to save DACA

[sinkingfeeling]

They were Martin Heinrich, Tom Udall, and Kamala Harris.

We had 3 red state Democratic Senators who voted for the horrid Grassley/Trump plan as well. They were:
Joe Donnelly - Ind.
Heidi Heitkamp - ND
Joe Manchin - WV

[bearsfootball516]

1. For the red state Democrats...

The plan never had a chance to pass, so it's better to vote against it when they already know it's going to fail than to vote for it and give their opponents ammunition in the next election.

[sinkingfeeling]

12. The guys from the red states voted FOR Trump's 4 pillar plan. I on't know how they voted on the

bipartisan (Durbin-Graham) plan.

[Docreed2003]

2. Ive been swamped at work but Im surprised by Harris voting against this

What was her reasoning?

[Control-Z]

4. Ditto.

I really like Harris. I hope she is as great as she has appeared to me.

[DURHAM D]

6. Perhaps this will help.

There were three different bills. No one has provided a stronger voice for the Dreamers than Senator Harris.

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/15/17016278/senate-immigration-deal-vote-count

[Docreed2003]

7. Thanks...and I knew Sen Harris had been strongly fighting for Dreamers

Which was why I was surprised that she didn’t vote for the bipartisan bill. Thank you for this in depth article.

[ooky]

23. It still doesnt make sense.

I thought I had heard Harris say in an interview that she would give Trump his damn border wall money if it saved the Dreamers. This article says she was opposed to the bill because of the border wall concessions.

[Ken Burch]

8. Possibly, she could have been thinking that, if she runs for president...

...she needed to seen as casting some "tough" votes on immigration issues...

[bettyellen]

9. That cant be it. I think the court preserving DACA for now has them positioned differently...

She’s as strong as a supporter on DACA than anyone.

[Ken Burch]

10. OK. And I admire her on a lot of issues.

She could be a very strong candidate if she runs in 2020.

Her best approach will be to run as an "I won't back down" kind of candidate-which I think is the way she would run.

[bettyellen]

11. Apparently this bill included further curbs to legal immigration and the wall....

There was some sort of amendment to it that McCaine and someone else sent up, and she voted for that. It didn’t pass so she felt this wasn’t good enough.
I’d read the court cases were going to effect this fight- and also that a lot of the GOP does not want these curbs to legal immigration. So hopefully something better is down the pipe.

[Ken Burch]

13. Thank you for the information.

n/t.

[DarthDem]

3. I'd Like to Hear . . .

. . . Harris' rationale for her vote, as well as that of the two New Mexico senators.

[herding cats]

5. Was this the one with the $25 million for the wall?

More than one was knocked down so I’m not clear which one it was.

[bettyellen]

14. Yes- and further curbs to legal immigration.

[herding cats]

17. Yeah, I looked up her vote and her reasoning.

Aparently the OP wasn’t aware the Durbin - Graham bill died last month and thought this was that bill.

[sinkingfeeling]

18. Durbin and Graham announced Wednesday evening they were pulling it. That's when

Rounds pulled his support and made his amendment, according to Truthout.


https://thinkprogress.org/graham-bipartisan-bill-a6d4f95879cc/

[herding cats]

21. Yes, its the bill with the $25 million for the wall and many other provisions to cull immigration

I know Durbin-Graham tried up until recently, but it was effectively dead in late January due to a lack of support and general lunacy from the WH. Just today a White House person under the veil of anonymity met with specific press to attack Graham again specifically.

I keep up with immigration legislation more than most, and today was extremely nuts and confusing if you weren’t up front and in the trenches.

[sinkingfeeling]

15. No, this was the Durbin-Graham plan which only had $2.7 billion in 'security improvements'. The one

45 threatened to veto.

[herding cats]

16. No, youre mistaken. This was not the one theyd tried to draft.

The votes are in — and the bipartisan immigration proposal that had the best chance of passing has failed.

On Thursday afternoon, a compromise proposal written by Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) and Angus King (I-ME), went down to defeat in the Senate, with 54 votes in favor and 45 against. 60 votes were necessary for the amendment to be approved — so it fell six votes short.

Eight Republicans — Sens. Rounds, Susan Collins (R-ME), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Cory Gardner (R-CO), Lamar Alexander (R-TN), and Johnny Isakson (R-GA) — joined most Democrats to vote in favor of the proposal. All the other Republicans present voted no.

Three Democrats — Sens. Kamala Harris (D-CA), Martin Heinrich (D-NM), and Tom Udall (D-NM) — also voted no, apparently due to concerns that the Rounds deal conceded too much to President Trump on funding of the border wall and other immigration enforcement measures.

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/15/17016278/senate-immigration-deal-vote-count

[sinkingfeeling]

20. Yeah, Rounds stuck all.that other junk back in after pulling support for

the one on Wednesday.

[herding cats]

22. Yep. It was a nightmare.

I don’t know how they keep up with which bill is what considering how much they have on their plates.

[kentuck]

19. Can't they simply abstain...?

...If they cannot vote for or against it??

Maybe they need to give it more thought??

Or....