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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:47 AM Jul 2012

Florida puppeteer known for community involvement arrested - Warning! Very disturbing

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/25/12954017-puppeteer-who-fantasized-online-about-cannabalism-arrested-for-child-porn-conspiring-to-kidnap?lite

Puppeteer who fantasized online about cannabalism arrested for child porn, conspiring to kidnap

By Kari Huus, NBC News

7/25/2012

A Florida puppeteer known for community involvement was arrested and charged with conspiring to kidnap a child and possession of child pornography, according to a criminal complaint filed in a federal court in Tampa court on Friday.

A day earlier, federal and local agents arrested Ronald William Brown, 57, after uncovering graphic Internet chats in which he talked about abducting, murdering and cannibalizing children, referring specifically to his interest in a boy attending his church, the complaint says.

investigators came across pornographic images of children, including some of boys in bondage and others in which the subject appears to be dead, according to the 29-page complaint.

Brown, who lived alone in the Whispering Pines mobile home park in Largo, had ties to many organizations in the Tampa Bay area, including the Gulf Coast Church, the Pinellas County School District, the Christian Television Network, the city of Largo, and Gulf Coast Jewish Family & Community Services, the Tampa Bay Times reported. All said Brown had been hired or volunteered as a performer, instructor or mentor, according to the report.

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Florida puppeteer known for community involvement arrested - Warning! Very disturbing (Original Post) NNN0LHI Jul 2012 OP
the Christian Television Network??? malaise Jul 2012 #1
Christian Television Network?? kooljerk666 Jul 2012 #2
Yikes! Bosso 63 Jul 2012 #3
How many times does this have to happen before people realize that pedophiles try to be around kids? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #4
I know. We've got one in our own town who pulled a similart stunt with the local megachurch. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #5
The problem with that is in practice it translates to: 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #7
A father who wants to be around his own children could be assumed a pedophile? sadbear Jul 2012 #8
In public yes 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #9
Ahh... sadbear Jul 2012 #10
In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a man.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #11
I never denied that male child-molesters existed 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #12
I think America has some aspects that make it friendlier for pedophiles.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #13
How many paragraphs into the story...? MindPilot Jul 2012 #6
 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
2. Christian Television Network??
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:00 AM
Jul 2012

Is based in Largo FL.

I was hoping for a Pat Robertson connection. But they are CBN!

Call them & ask how the feel.

http://www.ctnonline.com/

CTN Headquarters

Physical Address
Christian Television Network
6922 142nd Ave., Largo, FL 33771

Postal address
P.O. Box 6922
Clearwater, Florida 33758

Telephone
727-535-5622
727-531-2497 FAX

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. How many times does this have to happen before people realize that pedophiles try to be around kids?
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:56 AM
Jul 2012

They arrange things, they volunteer, they buy a home right behind the local grammar school abutting on the playground, they endow foundations that ensure their access to children, they go to churches where if you spout the right rhetoric you're golden no matter how creepy you are, they become clowns, they become puppeteers.

And on and on and on..

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
5. I know. We've got one in our own town who pulled a similart stunt with the local megachurch.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:12 AM
Jul 2012

All he was doing was finding an inroad to the children by pretending to be a God-fearing Christian who only cared about making life better for children. The bastard's in jail now.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
7. The problem with that is in practice it translates to:
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jul 2012

anyone (male) who wants to be around a kid (even their own) should be assumed a pedophile until proven otherwise (ie the wife comes by and says yes that is our kid).

And then we lament why men are so unwilling to help out in raising and taking care of kids (at home or as careers).

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
9. In public yes
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jul 2012

there are plenty of cases of a single father watching his kid at a playground and being accused of being a pedophile.

And god help the single male who tries to take a screaming kid out of a mall or other public area.


Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a man..
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:51 AM
Jul 2012

I was myself molested when I was a kid..

Also had experience trying to get rid of a HS coach who was fairly obviously fucking at least a couple of the girl's soccer team when my daughter was in HS. That was unsuccessful and we found out later that he eventually got a girl pregnant..

Yeah, the problem you outline exists but I'm not sure what can be done about it.


 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
12. I never denied that male child-molesters existed
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jul 2012

I was pointing out that the assumption that every male is one is flawed.

There are women who murder their children. But I'd hesitate to label all mothers potential baby-killers.

I don't think child-molesters exist in any greater numbers here than they do elsewhere. And yet other nations manage to survive without the same level of hysteria.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. I think America has some aspects that make it friendlier for pedophiles..
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:01 AM
Jul 2012

For one thing we are a very mobile society, people don't know their neighbors very often and new people coming in to our social circles are not at all uncommon.

The whole evangelical/fundie/megachurch thing is just ripe for pedophiles, as I mentioned all you have to do is learn the language they use, spout it at every opportunity and you can get away with an amazing amount of shit.. While that's not a uniquely American phenomenon it's definitely more prevalent here than in other developed nations. It's really gotten to the point that when someone starts in with the fundie language I first check my wallet and then my grandkids..

Protestations to the contrary, we are also a remarkably authoritarian society in many ways, people like Sandusky can get away with a lot of vile behavior because they get themselves into a position of authority that will give automatic deference from a great many Americans.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
6. How many paragraphs into the story...?
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:19 AM
Jul 2012

Before mentioning church? In this case, 2. Never fails...show me a pedophile and I'll show you a believer.

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