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If he didn't just let Trump off the hook he just gave him ammunition to deny everything. (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 OP
russians had help, american help. that will be the next announcement of indictments nt msongs Feb 2018 #1
Next up, link trump to these indicted Russians. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #3
Lets hope so. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #7
Says you. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #19
trump has already denied everything....this ain't close to over yet spanone Feb 2018 #2
This is just the beginning. Kaleva Feb 2018 #4
This indictment had to do only with the 13 Russians The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #5
I'm just wondering what is behind the strategy of indicting nobodies in Russia. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #22
It provides detailed evidence of the conspiracy to interfere with the election The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #26
I think it inoculates Mueller and Rosenstein from being fired by Trump Zorro Feb 2018 #33
Nope. Trump can't talk about this at all. It goes against his narrative that Russia did NOT TeamPooka Feb 2018 #6
He said no Americans charged in the indictment. EffieBlack Feb 2018 #8
I think it disproves tRump's claims of no Russian involvement. panader0 Feb 2018 #9
Cmon....just more fake news Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #36
I hope all of these replies are right. Ilsa Feb 2018 #10
Rosenstein stated no allegations of Americans' involvement in THIS indictment. PA Democrat Feb 2018 #11
I noticed he specifically said KatyMan Feb 2018 #14
I wonder if he was pressured to add that piece. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #38
This! ...Rosenstein said 'THIS' indictment " which is an important distinction. nt chowder66 Feb 2018 #39
We have not heard the rest of the story............ democratisphere Feb 2018 #12
The more I think about it marlakay Feb 2018 #13
Agree Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #32
Good try but that was a different situation. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #15
Wrong. Orange Baby is having a terrible no good very bad day. Hekate Feb 2018 #16
I think the part about Bernie will make some here denigrate this move by Mueller. Squinch Feb 2018 #17
There WERE Americans (Trump associates) involved thought the indictment spells that out !! uponit7771 Feb 2018 #18
Someone's having the Sadz! tenderfoot Feb 2018 #20
You missed "This indictment" grantcart Feb 2018 #21
I suppose at this point Mueller is now fire-proof. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #23
exactly, just announced one guilty plea just entered grantcart Feb 2018 #24
Here you go: Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #25
Yeah, I said upthread it tamps down witch hunt talk and makes Mueller fire-proof Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #29
Tea Pain is right on. C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #30
MUELLER'S. NOT. FINISHED. !!!! nt Atticus Feb 2018 #27
Let Trump keep denying C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #28
There are a ton of 'known' and 'unknown' players in there sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #31
Yeah. I got a little nervous at first when I turned on the tv in the middle ... Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #34
No allegations in THIS indictment. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2018 #35
I guess he could have left that part out. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #37

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. Next up, link trump to these indicted Russians.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:45 PM
Feb 2018

My guess is the Internet Research Co of Russia will be linked via Jared to Cambridge Analytica, then BOOM mofo's.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
5. This indictment had to do only with the 13 Russians
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:46 PM
Feb 2018

and what they were doing with regard to social media and grass-roots rallies. It did not address many other issues, including the hacking of the DNC or contacts with Trump campaign officials. There very well could be, and probably will be, other indictments of other people, including Americans. Grand jury indictments are always very specific and careful to address only specific people and actions.

I'm confident that there will be more to come. The investigation isn't over.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
22. I'm just wondering what is behind the strategy of indicting nobodies in Russia.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:59 PM
Feb 2018

Are they going to extradite them and turn them?


I guess it tamps down the "witch hunt" bullshit.


Maybe it is a masterful shot across the bow..

Come to think of it, Mueller is now fire-proof.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
26. It provides detailed evidence of the conspiracy to interfere with the election
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:02 PM
Feb 2018

by using social media and grass-roots activities; thereby making it impossible to deny the fact of the conspiracy.

Zorro

(15,748 posts)
33. I think it inoculates Mueller and Rosenstein from being fired by Trump
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:09 PM
Feb 2018

A firing after this announcement would make Trump's treason blatantly obvious.

TeamPooka

(24,242 posts)
6. Nope. Trump can't talk about this at all. It goes against his narrative that Russia did NOT
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:47 PM
Feb 2018

interfere in the election at all and taint his Presidency.
This says they did.
He will ignore completely.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
8. He said no Americans charged in the indictment.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:47 PM
Feb 2018

Mueller just put on the record that the Russians interfered in the election. That’s a BFD. It will provide the foundation for everything else moving forward.

Calm down.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. I hope all of these replies are right.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:49 PM
Feb 2018

I worry that Mueller might avoid indicting trump because of the consttitutional issues it could bring up.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
11. Rosenstein stated no allegations of Americans' involvement in THIS indictment.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:51 PM
Feb 2018

The hack of the DNC is a separate investigation.

I think Rosenstein is walking a tightrope trying to appease Trump to save his job and subsequently Meuller's job.

Rosenstein also stated that the Mueller investigation is ongoing including obstruction of justice.

Trump will spin it, but I hope the Mueller investigation is safe for now.

KatyMan

(4,206 posts)
14. I noticed he specifically said
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:54 PM
Feb 2018

THIS indictment several times, leaving the door open for what future indictments may reveal.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
39. This! ...Rosenstein said 'THIS' indictment " which is an important distinction. nt
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:24 PM
Feb 2018

- for what it's worth I'm boosting your reply with This!

but the word 'this' is making things wonky in trying to do so.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
12. We have not heard the rest of the story............
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:51 PM
Feb 2018

............yet! There are mountains of evidence and indictments to come. Mueller made a brilliant move; just enough information to make a statement while not divulging information on the rest of the investigation.

marlakay

(11,482 posts)
13. The more I think about it
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:53 PM
Feb 2018

The more I think he set out to prove the Russians interfered first and said it in such a way everyone will agree on both sides.

Then he can come back later once the foundation is set and say now I found proof these people knew about it.

The republicans have been saying the Russians didn’t do anything so he had to take that away in a manner acceptable to the right.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
29. Yeah, I said upthread it tamps down witch hunt talk and makes Mueller fire-proof
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:05 PM
Feb 2018

Not sure what you are on about

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
34. Yeah. I got a little nervous at first when I turned on the tv in the middle ...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

... of Rosenstien saying "no knowing involvement with anyone from the campaign" and "didn't impact the election"

This takes it from a "witch hunt" to a serious crime the repigs can't deny. Mueller is fireproof.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
37. I guess he could have left that part out.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:20 PM
Feb 2018

I wonder if he had pressure to say that.

Why not let the indictments speak for themselves.

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