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(85,998 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:19 AM Jul 2012

Pres. Obama: This is not a time for cynics. It is not a time for doubters. It is time for believers.




excerpt of remarks by President Obama at the National Urban League Convention, Ernest N. Morial Convention Center
New Orleans, Louisiana, July 25, 2012:



____ For nearly a century, the National Urban League has been inspiring people of every race and every religion and every walk of life to reach for the dream that lies at the heart of our founding -- the promise that no matter who you are, no matter what you look like, no matter where you came from, no matter how modest your beginnings, no matter what the circumstances of your birth, here in America, you can make it if you try. (Applause.)

Of course, this dream has never come easy. That’s why the Urban League was formed. In the aftermath of the Civil War, with the South in the grips of Jim Crow, the waves of men and women who traveled north to urban centers discovered that even in their new homes, opportunity was not guaranteed. It was something you had to work for, something you had to fight for –- not just on your own, but side-by-side with people who believed in that same dream.

And so the white widow of a railroad tycoon and a black social worker from Arkansas founded what would become the Urban League, to strengthen our cities and our communities brick by brick, and block by block, and neighborhood by neighborhood, life by life.





Decades later, I arrived in one of those cities my hometown of Chicago. (Applause.) South Side! (Applause.) And I was driven by this same cause. Like many of my classmates, I felt, I understood, the pull of a hefty paycheck that might come from a more conventional job. But ultimately the pull to serve was even stronger.

So I moved to the South Side of Chicago, and I took a job with a group of churches, mostly Catholic parishes, working to help families who had no place to turn when the local steel plants shut down, and when panic-peddling had led to enormous turnover in these communities. And we worked with laypeople and local leaders to rebuild neighborhoods and improve schools, and most of all, to broaden opportunity for young people, too many who were at risk.

And I confess that progress didn’t come quickly and it did not come easily. Sometimes, it didn’t come at all. There were times where I thought about giving up and moving on. But what kept me going, day in and day out, was the same thing that has sustained the Urban League all these years, the same thing that sustains all of you, and that is the belief that in America, change is always possible; that our union may not be perfect, but it is perfectible; that we can strive over time through effort and sweat and blood and tears until it is the place we imagine.





It may come in fits and starts, at a pace that can be slow and frustrating. But if we are willing to push through all the doubt and the cynicism and the weariness, then, yes, we can form that more perfect union. (Applause.)

Now, the people I worked with in those early days in Chicago, they were looking for the same thing that Americans everyplace aspire to. We’re not a nation of people who are looking for handouts. We certainly don’t like bailouts. (Laughter.) We don’t believe government should be in the business of helping people who refuse to help themselves, and we recognize not every government program works. But we do expect hard work to pay off. We do expect responsibility to be rewarded. We do expect that if you put in enough effort, you should be able to find a job that pays the bills. (Applause.) You should be able to own a home you call your own. You should be able to retire in dignity and respect. You should be able to afford the security of health care and you should be able to give your kids the best possible education. (Applause.)

That idea that everybody should have a fair shot, not just some -- that this country is special because it has grown this magnificent middle class and has provided ladders of access for those striving to get into the middle class -- that's the idea that drove me. That's the idea that has driven the Urban League, That idea that everyone should have equal opportunity -- that's what brought me to Chicago.





That belief that this country works best when we are growing a strong middle class and prosperity is broad-based -- that's what led me into politics. And it is those values that have guided every decision that I have made as President of the United States.

For more than two centuries, our journey has never been easy, and our victories have never come quickly. And we have faced our share of struggles and setbacks and climbs that have seemed too steep -– just like we do today. But we know what we’re fighting for. We can see the America we believe in –- a country where everybody gets a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share, where everybody is playing by the same set of rules. And if we don’t keep fighting as hard as we know how for that America, if we don’t keep fighting for better jobs and better schools and a better future, who will? (Applause.)

That's our challenge. We don’t quit. Folks in New Orleans didn't quit. Americans don't quit. (Applause.) We accept responsibility. We keep on going. We keep marching. We keep moving forward. Failure is not an option. (Applause.) This is not a time for cynics. It is not a time for doubters. It is time for believers. It is time for folks who have faith in the future.




full remarks: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/25/remarks-president-national-urban-league-convention
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Pres. Obama: This is not a time for cynics. It is not a time for doubters. It is time for believers. (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2012 OP
K&R BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #1
he did hit all the points bigtree Jul 2012 #2
/ bigtree Jul 2012 #3
. bigtree Jul 2012 #4
I'm compelled by conscience and practicality to make sure Prez Obama wins the election, Zorra Jul 2012 #5
the context of his remarks to this civil rights organization doesn't call for any snarky response bigtree Jul 2012 #6
well he resisted the impulse to be cynical! grantcart Jul 2012 #10
"She" Zorra Jul 2012 #17
Thanks for the correction. grantcart Jul 2012 #20
Then count me right off nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #7
Bill Clinton used to say that cynicism is a luxury bigtree Jul 2012 #8
You may quote who you want nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #9
it's not the greatest motivator bigtree Jul 2012 #14
Ah so now politics is faith based? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #16
of course it is a matter of faith in these politicians bigtree Jul 2012 #18
Not for me, but hey, different strokes I 'spose nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #19
in politics, there are leaders and followers bigtree Jul 2012 #24
Then we are done, you really do not understand what a democracy is. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #25
what nonsense. I understand that you're invested in cynicism as a political writer bigtree Jul 2012 #27
Actually I see part of this as the problem we are mired in nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #30
well, you spoke of an autocratic government bigtree Jul 2012 #31
Some of us are a tad more realistic nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #32
And therein ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #28
here is the video, feel free to add it to the OP grantcart Jul 2012 #11
beautiful, grantcart bigtree Jul 2012 #15
He does some ad libbing that is not in the script. grantcart Jul 2012 #23
it is time for nihilism BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #12
Now I can get behind THAT one nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #13
It's time for a stark dose of reality. "Just believe" isn't going to work. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #21
Thumbs up nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #22
that's not cynicism, and the President said much more than just 'believe' bigtree Jul 2012 #26
And that's exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #29
. bigtree Jul 2012 #33

BumRushDaShow

(129,065 posts)
1. K&R
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jul 2012

It was a good speech. He hit all the highlights of where we were, what was done so far, where we need to be, and what we need to do to get there.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
2. he did hit all the points
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:35 AM
Jul 2012

. . . but in a refreshingly personal way which provided a little more insight into his own beginnings and expectations with public service, activism, and advocacy.

Pres. Obama has an important message that he's including in his speeches about our own responsibility in bringing about the changes we want to see in government, in this election and beyond. It's in our hands, he correctly reminds us. Inspiring.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
5. I'm compelled by conscience and practicality to make sure Prez Obama wins the election,
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jul 2012

so I won't post the perfect sarcastic cliche response the OP is just asking for.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
6. the context of his remarks to this civil rights organization doesn't call for any snarky response
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jul 2012

. . . of course, anyone can argue with any remark, taken out of context of an entire address.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Then count me right off
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:30 PM
Jul 2012

Lofty rhetoric, but I am a confirmed cynic.



Oh well... (Oh and having covered plenty of speeches from just your lowly city council, to actual presidential candidates... this is all it is... meant to get the base going)

But you will have to admit, if I was a cynic before, now I am worst of one.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
8. Bill Clinton used to say that cynicism is a luxury
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:33 PM
Jul 2012

. . . in the context of these presidential elections, I'd tend to agree with that.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. You may quote who you want
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:34 PM
Jul 2012

but some of us are way cynical, and it is a professional hazard too.

Now that does not mean we will stop voting, not at all... but if this is no time for cynics, count me out.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
14. it's not the greatest motivator
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jul 2012

. . . no one ever inspired me with their cynicism. Besides, if we're talking politics, it's certainly assumed that we should be cynical, but most of our actions in the political arena are a leap of faith. We can't very well lead with our doubts and inspire much more than apathy and inaction.

It's not a call to abandon those doubts, but to push past them to seek consensus, support, and solutions to the issues and concerns we bring to our democratic process. This isn't a time to lead with our doubts and cynicism over these presidential politics and elections. That's what I take from his remarks, and, I agree.

Quote that . . .

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
18. of course it is a matter of faith in these politicians
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jul 2012

. . . , where have you been?

As I said, we all have our doubts and reservations, but, we can't effectively lead or attract support for the changes we want in our government by dwelling on them. At some point, we have to believe we can influence our democratic process for the better; even if that involves tearing down and building a new political infrastructure. Cynicism never elected anyone to office. to elect these folks we know very little of substance about to carry out what they say they will in our political arena is a faith-based process; whether you like it or not.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
24. in politics, there are leaders and followers
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

I want more than a representative; I want someone who will inspire and generate the support needed to carry and advance our ideals through our democratic process to the ultimate outcome of action or law. Our democratic, political system isn't some static enterprise where you can just show up everyday and press a button; yea or nay and expect a productive or progressive outcome.We need more leaders in our legislature committed to inspiring and attracting the support needed to transform our advocacy and activism into political action.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
25. Then we are done, you really do not understand what a democracy is.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jul 2012

Perhaps we should go back to a monarchy... and the king happens to be a LEADER. No, not even POTUS is a leader.

But this is like civics 101.

Have a good day.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
27. what nonsense. I understand that you're invested in cynicism as a political writer
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jul 2012

. . . as long as you want to make this a personal attack on my integrity and knowledge of politics. That may well serve your interest in drawing support away from whatever politics you abhor, but it's a far sight from advancing those ideals beyond activism and advocacy into action or law.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
30. Actually I see part of this as the problem we are mired in
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jul 2012

and that is on BOTH sides. When people speak of LEADERS and STRONG LEADERS and all that, it is counter to democracy, and representative democracy chiefly. And BOTH sides engage in cult of personality by the way, and it is pushed BY THE MEDIA, by the by.

Language matters.

I will continue to point this out, and it is not a personal attack. It is a reality, we elect representatives, this is civics 101... but somehow this has been forgotten. I do not elect leaders, I do not have any faith in leaders. I elect representatives and I agitate to get them to do what I consider is their job, REPRESENT ME and my interests... a very different approach.

have an excellent day...

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
31. well, you spoke of an autocratic government
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jul 2012

. . . nothing is more autocratic than an individual advocacy. We can shout at our selves and at our legislators across the street from one another for an eternity without ever effecting any of the changes or ideals we say we want to see in our laws or in our government policy.

That's what our democratic system of government offers us; a way to reconcile the myriads of disparate and diverse opinions and interests from around the nation, along the lines that these 'representatives' can agree on, and advance them into action or law. In our legislative system, there isn't as much room for autocratic action as much as there is for compromise. In fact, our political system allows for both argument and agreement. That effort challenges those we elect to seek consensus and support to achieve the necessary numbers to overcome cloture votes and other obstructions to actually pass legislation which can be signed by the executive.

In other words, we certainly do begin with our doubts and fears, but we move past them to elect someone we believe will do more than just hold those ideals close to their vest as they operate in their offices; we need legislators who can inspire others (who may well hold different ideals and have their own interests and solutions) to join with them in support of legislation which makes progress on those things we say we want.

That aspiration by voters has little to do with any 'cult' of personality of any other type of derision you can attribute tho their support. Fact is, our government is an opportunity to collectively reconcile all of our many different notions about how our government should operate. That endeavor shouldn't compel those we elect to leave their own idealism at the door.

We should expect our 'representatives' to inspire and lead others within and without the political arena to accept and adopt these progressive changes in ways that inevitably will involve compromises with others who may not share agreement with every plank and proposal. That's a dynamic and engaging process which isn't motivated as much by cynicism as it is by inspiration.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
32. Some of us are a tad more realistic
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:34 PM
Jul 2012

and a lot less idealistic. I elect the ones that will do the LEAST damage. And I do not believe in super men or super heroes.

And in fact, the game is most important at the LOCAL level.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
28. And therein ...
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jul 2012

lies your leap of faith. Faith that your elected representative of choice will actually represent you and your interests.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. He does some ad libbing that is not in the script.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:06 PM
Jul 2012

'just sayin' that if you get student loans you still have to hit the books.

'just sayin' that you are not going to get ahead by watching 'real houswives'.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Now I can get behind THAT one
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jul 2012




Odd mood really... when trying to write short fiction with fire scanner in the background. All those taxes AT WORK... but damn it, people stop them fires!

(One of them is potentially bad, but they have been throwing everything, including the kitchen sink, at these things in the recent past... a lessons learned)

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
26. that's not cynicism, and the President said much more than just 'believe'
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jul 2012

His message in this address was a perfect prescription for effecting progressive changes in our political system. We don't lead or inspire these changes with our doubts and fears.

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