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Slate
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For all of the killing, though, its striking how little Americans have actually seen of the violence. We are shown the aftermath, and sometimesas with Parklandwe see victims hiding or escaping. But we dont see what the bullets actually do. We dont see the crumpled bodies or the bloody hallways, the mutilation that results when a medium-caliber round leaves a high-powered rifle and strikes a living person, tearing flesh, destroying bone, and leaving them either dead or gravely wounded. For the public, mass shootings are bloodless.
That might be part of the problem. Simply hearing about another shootingseeing the familiar footage on televisionhas not been enough to turn ordinary Americans into activists or even single-issue voters. Maybe we need to see the results of our choicesof our policiesto prompt a change.
As attorney general, Eric Holder saw the carnage of Sandy Hook firsthand. If the American people had access to those pictures, if the American people had seen those pictures, the calls for reasonable gun safety measures would have been passed, Holder said in a 2016 interview. If members of Congress perhaps had a chance to see those pictures and see what happened to those little angels I think we wouldve seen a different result.
Speaking to reporters on Thursday, California Sen. Kamala Harris, a former district attorney, echoed that sentiment. As a prosecutor
I had to look at autopsy photographs. When you see the effect of this extreme violence on a human body, and especially the body of a child, maybe it will shock some people into understanding this cannot be a political issue. We have to be practical.
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The fight to pass a federal anti-lynching law stalled for decades before it was propelled, in part, by gruesome images of Southern lynchings, printed in newspapers and circulated by black activists and sympathetic allies. The horrific violence done to Emmett Till, captured in photos and published for the world to see, helped energize the civil rights movement. There is no firm empirical relationship between press coverage and the publics turn against the Vietnam War, but images of fighting and death played a real part in pushing some Americans from quiet disagreement to staunch opposition. Images from Abu Ghraib contributed to the wide sense among Americans that U.S. officials were condoning torture in Iraq. And more recently, graphic videos and images from police shootings of black Americans have galvanized a broad protest movement and led to real change in public opinion.
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Edited to add: I can see both sides, and I do not have an answer to this. I do respect Kamala Harris and Eric Holder, and they have a valid point worth considering, and yet...I also respect the right to privacy of families who have been torn apart and would not want to see it handled in a way that added any more agony than they are already suffering. This is not a question with an easy answer.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)Put them on prime time TV, news, etc.
Chemisse
(30,814 posts)It would be horrific to turn on the news and see the mutilated body of your child being publicly scoured over like porn.
So no. I disagree.
However this is the first time I've seen footage of scared kids hiding in their classrooms, with shots ringing out in the distance. It really drove it home for me.
hatrack
(59,592 posts)That said, Mamie Till Bradley changed the world by doing what the OP suggests.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Would you want a picture of a dead loved one used to campaign against drunk driving?
dsc
(52,166 posts)hell yeah I would want my body used to help ban guns.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Then tell your loved ones and see their reaction.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)What a complete lack of humanity - the families have the right to privacy.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)to it. I, personally, can only dimly imagine what an AR-15 does to human flesh, but as I say, its a very dim and fuzzy picture. A dose of bloody reality would surely wake some people UP
-sigh-
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)OK with mass shooters, bump-stocks, murderers, and an increasing number of white wing gun-humpers like this:
NRA board members like this:
Mass Murderers like this:
Gun Humping dads indoctrinating their kids into gun culture:
Anti-government types like this:
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More ignorant gun-strokers:
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R B Garr
(16,966 posts)Girl accident, which was a highly publicized accident of a young woman who took her Dads Porsche out after an argument or something. I should have Googled it again to recollect the details...
Anyway, her head was crushed between a cement toll bridge pillar in Orange County CA at a high speed and ripped off pretty much in half. He leaked the gruesome picture as a warning to the dangers of driving like she did. The parents were devastated, and they sued.
So I keep wondering when these shooting victims will be leaked, too. Agreed, it would open up an entirely new conversation about gun violence. Let people see what these monsters do to ordinary people just going about their lives.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)It is horrible for family of a murdered oerson to see the body laying in blood. For that reason, I don't favor showing shooting scenes.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)I agree that people need to see exactly what bullets do to a human body.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)You and the rest who want to see death can go there.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...look at the contemporary World War Two films. Men get "killed" and just fall over "dead". Bodies intact. No torn limbs, no guts hanging out, no heads blown off. Being realistic would have been bad for "morale". See Paul Fussell's *Wartime* for some discussion of this--how that war was sanitized and Disneyfied out of all recognition. (He had been in the infantry; he knew what he was talking about.) It took fifty years--until *Saving Private Ryan*--before we had realistic depictions of what war was/is really like. It may take that long before we can face our own reality.