I thought Ted Nugent knew at least some things about guns...

[Archae]

I guess not.

During an appearance yesterday on Glenn Beck's radio show, Nugent again denied that the alleged shooter had been armed with an assault weapon, while theorizing that the Aurora theater shooter could have done "more damage with a single shot or bolt action [rifle] because he had 20 minutes." In fact, police were reportedly on the scene between 60 and 90 seconds after the first 911 calls were made.

(snip)

NUGENT: And let me state as if fact that I know for a fact that most of the damage done by this devil in Aurora was done with the number one pheasant shotgun in the world, a Remington 870. His AR-15 Smith & Wesson rifle is now the most popular sporting rifle in America. It is the number one competition, number one in self-defense; it's the number one sporting rifle for big game and small game. And if they keep calling it an assault weapon, I may have that aneurysm.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/26/nugent-doubles-down-claims-aurora-shooter-could/187343

[johnnie]

1. "I may have that aneurysm. "

Please please please please...

[Enrique]

2. there goes Nugent's credibility

which he has cultivated over the years.

[Hoyt]

3. Was NRA Board Member Teddy speaking on behalf of the right wing organization or just gun

owners in general who think anything goes?

[Egalitarian Thug]

4. This psychotic attention whore spent 20 years badmouthing guns because "Real men

are bow hunters". So he's very late to the game and lacks the intellect to catch up.

[lpbk2713]

5. Tedophile and BecKKK together.

Now there's a show for the Comedy Channel.

[madokie]

16. You mean fox noise

comedy central is way too good for either or both of those assholes.

[11 Bravo]

6. He knew enough that he preferred to shit himself rather than face people who could shoot back.

Just another candy-ass chickenhawk.

[The Magistrate]

7. This Pedophile Coward's Only Expertise Is In Soiling His Britches, Sir

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

[madokie]

17. And living in those soiled britches for weeks so he could avoid the draft

Shit his pants and wore them for weeks, now what kind of a person would do something like that I ask

[Chuuku Davis]

8. An Assault Weapon is technically select fire or full auto

So he is correct on that point.

The "20 minutes" is pure bullshit

[Bandit]

14. During the Korean Conflict the semi-auto M1--Carbine was referred to as an assault rifle

Later they included a selector switch and called it the M2--Carbine and the ARVN were issued it during the Vietnam Police Action.

[NickB79]

9. Technically, the shooter DIDNT have an assault rifle

The standard definition of which is given here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

The translation assault rifle gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[4][5][6]

It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)

Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 (which the M16 rifle is based on) that share designs with assault rifles are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective fire capable. Belt-fed weapons or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines.

The term "assault rifle" is often more loosely used for commercial or political reasons to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or semi-automatic variant of military rifles such as AR-15s.

The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."[7]

He's an asshole for sure, but he's technically right.

Also, from what I've read and heard on the news, he started the shooting spree with a 12-gauge shotgun, switched to the AR-15 when the shotgun went empty, but then it's high-capacity magazine jammed. This forced him to switch yet again to his handguns, so until the forensics come back it is possible he killed more people with the shotgun than the rifle.

[leftyohiolib]

11. doesnt the ar in ar15 stand for assault rifle

[NickB79]

13. No, it comes from Armalite, the first manufacturer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#History

[leftyohiolib]

18. thanks for the correction

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

19. "AR" stands for "Armalite"... they developed the AR model 10 and 15 rifles.

As I recall, Armalite was a division of Fairchild Engine/Aircraft that made small arms in the '50s. There are a number of guns with the "AR" nomenclature and not all are assault rifles. For example, the AR-1 and AR-5 were bolt action and .22lr rifles, respectively. The "AR15" as we are familiar with it today was born out of Armalite Chief Engineer Eugene Stoner's radical direct impingement rotating-bolt design of the AR-10... basically, it's an AR15 designed around the much more powerful 7.62x51mm (.308 winchester). Armalite, and several other companies were looking to impress the military with a new design to replace the Garand. Ultimately, the AR-10 lost out to other competitors... but don't feel bad since it eventually (more recently) became the base design of the M110 rifle.

As it turns out, around the Vietnam War, as a response ot the wildly popular AK47, the US military decided the warfighter did not need full power cartridges and requested a design using weaker intermediate ammo. Easier to shoot and easier to carry around more ammo with the tradeoff of being less lethal and shorter range. The AR10 design was scaled down in weight and size to what we know as the AR-15 and the military designated the rifle the "M16" (military ordinance usually takes on the "M" moniker when adopted). this is, infact, one of the AR15's greatest design strengths - it can be scaled up or down to accomodate MANY different military or civilian hunting cartridges (pistol ammo, short actino rifle, long action rifle, etc.).

The phrasing "AR" has stuck with them and, despite not being made by Armalite, most similar model rifles are called "AR-15" or similar. The most common Armalite "AR" designs are the AR15, AR10, AR180, AR30, AR50 and AR7. Armalite even makes "AR" pistols like the AR24 9mm handgun (looks like a CZ75 clone to me).

So, in the future, you now know that "AR" means "Armalite".
"And Knowing is Half the Battle"

[leftyohiolib]

10. I may have that aneurysm gtk and knowing is half the battle

he knows which end to put his needle dick in

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

12. Well, he is right that it is not an assault rifle nor assault weapon.

The federal definition of "assault weapon" expired in 2004 with the sunset of Clinton's AWB.
Since Holmes' rifle was not select fire or fully automatic, it does not meet the criterion for "assault rifle" either.

I do think that it's rediculous to state that he might have done more damage with a bolt action rifle.

[NickB79]

15. Clearly you don't have the intellect of Dr. Nuget!

See, if he went in there with a bolt-action .50 caliber rifle with armor-piercing rounds, and waited until 50 people decided to form a conga line during the Batman-Bane final fight scene, and were all lined up just right, he could have fired ONE bullet and killed 50 people! Brilliant!

Mr. Nuget's brain is working so far above us little people that what we interpret as insanity is actually pure, unadulterated genius.