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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSoon, Trump voters are going to have a head on collision with reality.
Mueller is reality. In my opinion this is one of the most dangerous periods in our countries history for this reason.
The Republican party , Trump, Fox news, propaganda campaign against their voters has been completely successful. Trump voters now believe in fake news. They don't care about the Russia investigation, fake news. They don't care about the bad things they hear about Trump. Fake news. Trump voters are under the complete control of propaganda. It is a major threat to our democracy.
When the Mueller investigation ends it's going to be brutal on Trump and the people who have worked for him. It will be shocking to Trump voters watching so many people getting indicted, pleading guilty, articles of impeachment being brought forth against Trump.
We are going to witness what happens when propaganda hits head on with reality. This will be historic.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Mueller is the enemy trying to take down their beloved messiah. They live in some warped reality that the FBI is the enemy and Humpty dRumpty is the victim.
Sadly...that is the case now. Reality doesn't exist to the alt-right.
dchill
(38,562 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)To them? Too far gone to even know what reality is anymore
dchill
(38,562 posts)Reality is what does it.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I want this to be reality itself just what we're living it isn't that
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)nt
dchill
(38,562 posts)nt
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)has been done elsewhere.
Deplorables are not going to sit back and accept justice on their corrupt leaders.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)I'm not scared of these cowards and we can take anything they can throw at us! They can do whatever they're going to do, whether it's whine, march, riot, or (most likely), cling to their guns and threaten everybody with them. I refuse to live in fear of them, and Trump is not getting away with this. Let the whole world see who they really are when justice is done!
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Hope it proves true this time, though
Fervently
DownriverDem
(6,232 posts)are traitors for protecting trump. The majority of the country does not believe a word trump says.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Only the blindly devoted and too far gone idiots believe him
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Zorro
(15,751 posts)I am really tired with dumbassery dominating our political landscape.
I couldn't agree more. It is everywhere and sucking all the air out of everything.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)byronius
(7,402 posts)And I think you're right, that's a big step.
enough
(13,264 posts)maryellen99
(3,790 posts)GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)breaking news on CNN, I'll sometimes turn on Faux for a second to see if they're reporting it. Hardly ever; it's usually some phony "scandal" headline involving the Clintons or President Obama.
getagrip_already
(14,891 posts)if you went to foxnews.com the main headline was the fbi failing to pursue the shooter lead in florida. The other main headlines were just random crap, including some redneck family that got into a fight on a cruise ship and had to be ejected.
The only place the indictments appears was a small box in a series of vid clips. But no comentary or analysis was provided. you had to watch the clip, which I didn't bother to do.
So yeah, no coverage is pretty much the norm on major stories that don't match their agenda.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)Afromania
(2,771 posts)Well, technically not all alone, but any voice they had will be muted because the rest of the country understands that those people can't be trusted not to get us all killed over their dangerous ass "ideologies".
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)they entrench even deeper. What I am hopeful for though is that the majority of us who are NOT cultists will finally rise up and say ENOUGH. So many examples I could cite where conflict was resolved not by extremists seeing the folly of their ways, but by being marginalized and disempowered. Ive said all along that the problem is not white nationalists and far right extremists, its that theyve been empowered/enabled by the mainstream republican party.
rock
(13,218 posts)That would make them wrong, stupid, and easily duped. Consider their choices. And remember they are wrong, stupid, and easily duped.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)We assume that Mueller is going to be around all that time.
Mr. Ected
(9,673 posts)Ours.
dchill
(38,562 posts)We can only attempt to recognize it. We belong to IT - all of us, whether we believe it or not.
Mr. Ected
(9,673 posts)But our reality will be born out by indictments, prosecutions and imprisonment.
Their "reality" will be exposed in the process.
dchill
(38,562 posts)In the end there can be only one.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)dalton99a
(81,636 posts)of Germany after WWII. But we know this will not happen, and most Trump voters will be Trump voters - willfully ignorant, racist, hateful assholes - until they die off.
But fuck them. The welfare and well-being of the cult is not my concern.
Paladin
(28,277 posts)ancianita
(36,160 posts)rolls right off the RBS and keeps on rolling, picking up new generations of children who've been brainwashed by religions used by parents as a substitute for their own efforts at moral teaching.
The head-on will be just what the religious need when they hear their children tell them they've been duped by so many for so long they don't even know who their friends in government really are.
But as Obama said, they'll cling to their religion and their guns
Ilsa
(61,707 posts)That's the "Central valley" per NBC. The few talked to are voting R, don't pay attention to russia story, call some msm news outlets "fake".
It makes me weep that ordinary people like this can be played. Nunes will win again, I'm afraid, unless he's indicted, and soon.
Texin
(2,599 posts)They have been brainwashed because they WANT to believe the propaganda. It fits with their own particular world view and their own prejudices and belief system, along with their bent toward authoritarian doctrinaire. They want their very on Papa Doc - and by, god, they've got him in Shitler. They'll gladly go down with the ship of fools.
CanonRay
(14,121 posts)after the Mueller investigation is over, even after Trump is out of office, they STILL won't believe it. They are that conditioned to his bullshit. He'll never accept he is guilty, and neither will they. Big trouble IMHO.
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)Money laundering.
If the left can frame what happened as Trump "sold out his country for personal financial gain and was a blackmailed puppet of Putin", it will turn some against him.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Wish I was, but propaganda usually wins. It changes shape just enough to slip in again. Not sure Mueller can definitively nail everyone who is a criminal. Power structures protect vested power.
enid602
(8,659 posts)Deplorables will simply 'deplode.'
Nitram
(22,913 posts)They'll just chant that "the system is rigged."
rickford66
(5,530 posts)The elephant never forgets. The only reality they know is reality TV.
kimbutgar
(21,224 posts)I hope it makes their heads explode!
watoos
(7,142 posts)and I agree there is no arguing with them. However, when Jr. and Jared and others get indicted a big key will be how many patriotic Republicans will step up to the plate? If they all make a pact to go down with Trump I say, game on. Those Trumpers are going to have to double down on their blue pills and I will double down on my red pills. Reality and truth must prevail.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)We have to remember these are very stupid people we are dealing with in the Whitehouse. They were using their cell phones during this investigation. The chances are very good someone was listening.
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)it could get even worse
Bayard
(22,181 posts)Current mass shootings will be a drop in the bucket to what will ensue. You have to hope most will have more sense, but there will be some that think open rebellion and retribution is the way to go.
notKeith
(141 posts)Trump starts WWIII.
lindalou65
(253 posts)a Winston Churchill quote that sums up the reality Trumpers will face: "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
vi5
(13,305 posts)They don't live in reality. They don't exist in reality. They live in a world where everyone that is not like them is out to get them and take away what is theirs.
Short of Fox News being forced off the air and the internet being censored, nothing is going to bring these morons back to fact-based reality.
There will always be someone else to blame and excuses to be made.
ffr
(22,674 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Not with Faux, Brainfart,national enquirer, winger radio and Russia manipulating reality.
They'll believe in extraterrestrials and bigfoot before they believe anything bad about cheetolini.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,481 posts)millions of guns and hundreds of millions of rounds are
a true threat to all of us IMO.... do not underestimate the ignorance of some of the American public.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)In fact I fear an insurrection of some sort if a Dem president is elected in 2020. With the courts freshly packed with fellow RW ideologues and the fact that the Feds can really bungle a prosecution get ready for more Bundy style armed occupations except this time it won't be some wildlife preserve in Oregon, it'll be government buildings and offices.
Also expect to see racist, right wing law enforcement openly sympathizing with the seditionists.
The Pandora's Box has been opened and it's going to be near impossible to stuff it back in.
Gothmog
(145,666 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)they are now so insulated from reality that they can't face it. I waste some time on the cesspool of a site skinner still runs called
discussionist.com
It is impressive to see how impervious to reality they are.
The site is overrun with Trumpites. These people are incapable of reality. Fox News and Brietbart and Limbaugh have helped make them that way. They are frightened and afraid and they think the world is against them. They will call it a "leftist plot to take over the government" They are all but shaking with anger and irrationality. They couldn't see reality if it smashed them in the face.