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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:52 PM Feb 2018

Teachers Did NOT Sign Up For Combat Pay. Not Qualified To Be Armed.

No amount of training will make teachers qualified to being armed. Even armed professionals cannot hit targets in a firefight. You are lucky if you hit your target or even come close. Pulling a trigger on a suspect is completely extremely difficult. You hesitate and you are wounded or dead.

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Teachers Did NOT Sign Up For Combat Pay. Not Qualified To Be Armed. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Feb 2018 OP
It's ludicrous that people are seriously suggesting arming teachers VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #1
Some teachers explained it to me this way. Igel Feb 2018 #3
So "Open up, it's the police!" is the password? ThoughtCriminal Feb 2018 #4
This strategy only works if every teacher is armed VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #5
I don't have a football player in my classroom AwakeAtLast Feb 2018 #7
Agreed, and also consider that the teacher is responsible for supervising senseandsensibility Feb 2018 #2
Why should they have to think about this? malaise Feb 2018 #6

VMA131Marine

(4,149 posts)
1. It's ludicrous that people are seriously suggesting arming teachers
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:03 PM
Feb 2018

There is no way that they could be adequately trained to respond correctly to an active shooter situation with the time and resources available. Not to mention they would likely be outgunned from the start. We need to put semi-auto long guns, like the AR-15, in the same class as full auto weapons.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
3. Some teachers explained it to me this way.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:15 PM
Feb 2018

They'd simply do what they were expected to do to get concealed weapons permits. More than a few are already pretty good shots.

Then they obey instructions during the lockdown drill. They have their kids locked in their rooms with them.

If their classroom is invaded, they're there with gun drawn and aimed at the doorway.

"Run, hide, fight" is the mantra. In this case, if in a classroom and the intruder enters, the instruction is "fight."

The only downside is that if it's a cop who's entering without giving warning. This they acknowledge, but figure it's worth the risk.

Most teachers I know don't have a CWP.

It's no worse than my classroom. We have a bat. I give it to a football player and say, "If anybody gets through that door without saying they're police, you clobber them in the face."

I don't know of a teacher who says, "Gee, if I had my CWP in an active shooter situation, I'd leave my classroom and kids unattended and prowl the halls looking for the intruder." When a non-gun-owning teacher suggested this might be something the "gun-lovers" might do, they stared at her, because they'd be a person unknown to the police in the hall carrying a gun ... And be a prime target for both the good guys and the bad guy.

VMA131Marine

(4,149 posts)
5. This strategy only works if every teacher is armed
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:57 PM
Feb 2018

And the shooter is likely going to know which classrooms to avoid.

AwakeAtLast

(14,134 posts)
7. I don't have a football player in my classroom
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:22 AM
Feb 2018

I teach elementary students, guess I'm a goner.

The day I need a gun in my classroom is the day I walk out.

senseandsensibility

(17,138 posts)
2. Agreed, and also consider that the teacher is responsible for supervising
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:07 PM
Feb 2018

20-30 children at the same time. Ridiculous.

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