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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNONE of Mitt Romney's ancestors ever served in the US Military
not one single person, not on his mother or fathers side.
Not Civil War
Not WWI
Not WWII
Not Korea
Not Vietnam
Not Desert Storm
Not Afghanistan & not Iraq
He pledges to add 100,000 troops and increase the Military budget, while cutting taxes.
And says: "If Im president, the Iranians will have no question but that I will be willing to take military action...(to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon)
When asked why none of his five sons are in the military he said:
".... we have a volunteer Army and that's the way we're going to keep it," Romney told some 200 people gathered in an abbey near the Mississippi River that had been converted into a hotel. "My sons are all adults and they've made decisions about their careers and they've chosen not to serve in the military and active duty and I respect their decision in that regard."
He added: "One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I'd be a great president."
...The woman who asked the question, Rachel Griffiths, 41, of Milan, Ill., identified herself as a member of Quad City Progressive Action for the Common Good, as well as the sister of an Army major who had served in Iraq.
"Of course not," Griffiths said when asked if she was satisfied with Romney's answer. "He told me the way his son shows support for our military and our nation is to buy a Winnebago and ride across Iowa and help him get elected."
source--http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/08/politics/main3147321.shtml
It is easy for him to talk big about how he will use the Military considering how little his own family has had to sacrifice.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)just sayin' ...
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)And Mitt is not alone in this respect.
montanacowboy
(6,089 posts)THE ROMONEY'S NEVER SACRIFICE - UNLESS IT'S TO SACRIFICE OTHER PEOPLE
Segami
(14,923 posts)commit other people's families and loved ones to shed blood, fight and possibly die in THEIR unnecessary wars.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)This has struck me ever since I looked into his history. My family are all immigrants, but we have veterans of every war since 1860's in our tree. The only time the Romneys took up arms, was AGAINST the United States Federal Marshals in the Mormon Utah Wars. Today, his kin would be David Koresh wannabe. How many of us can look at a multi-generational family tree and find NO one who has fought FOR this country? It's beyond bizarre.
Yet these SOB's dare to question President Obamas loyalty to this country? Obama has grandfathers and uncles who fought WW2, and other veterans in his tree.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Mormon and miss the draft?
Segami
(14,923 posts)we should be able to win every war Mittens and the NeoCons start without ever logging one single casualty ONLY if we outfit all our Mormon forces with military grade ' magic underwear '....
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)It just seems that Romneys don't subscribe to that.
I don't think there were any Romneys in the Mormon Battalion
Segami
(14,923 posts)that they come from a bloodline stock of Kings and great leaders and along with such fantasies, they believe sacrifice is best left to others. You will probably find that the biggest war-mongering loud-mouths NEVER have any skin (their own or their family ) in the ' sacrifice ' game when it comes to serving their country on the front lines.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)My uncle went to 'Nam and virtually all the men in my grandparents' generation went to WWII. My cousin was in the coast guard for a while.
My great-uncle died a hero in northern France after landing at Normandy.
Really? None of Romney's family ever fought for the US?
Patiod
(11,816 posts)(my dad was in the Navy for WWII)
but not if you're making noise about making more of other peoples' children serve.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Not going to WWII... makes me uncomfortable. That really smacks of selfishness and cowardice.
ETA: Not going to Nam and demonstrating FOR the war makes you a goddamned toolio.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)I completely agree!
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)his maternal grandfather was born in the UK, as was his paternal great-great-grandfather; none of his direct ancestors I can find in several generations served in the US military. George Romney was apparently working in coordinating Detroit's contributions to the war effort (he was managing director of something called the Automotive Council for War Production), which is fair enough and he was probably more useful there than in uniform, for what that's worth.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)He's still a hugh tool though.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)And found it hard to believe. But the facts seem to confirm it is true.
For someone who claims to have a long history and deep roots in America, I find the fact that not one of his ancestors ever saw fit to serve this country pretty odd. Given the large families that make up his background, I can't believe there weren't males who were eligible during any of the various conflicts this country has been involved in.
I wonder how many people know this- It has nothing to do with their faith, the Mormon church isn't against military service-
there are many vets among my own ancestors, which date back to the 1600's.
My Dad- Germany in the Army in WWII, Uncle- Army surgeon in the Pacific Theater-
Great Uncle- WWI died as result of the mustard gas exposure-
My Great Grandfather enlisted in Union Army when he was 17, was wounded but returned to battle and mustered out at the end of the war. (some 20yrs later he had his leg amputated because the minnie ball that hadn't been removed caused severe infection) his brother got sick was sent home during the war and never recovered.
My generation includes several cousins who have served in Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan.
madamesilverspurs
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Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)I hadn't seen this, thanks for sharing it.
d_r
(6,907 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,874 posts)They were far busier escaping the authorities while enroute to the south of America.
Good plan that was and hey, it worked!
Too good to serve, too godly.
Magic underwear not allowed. No.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Is this "just folks." Most folks I know have at least one person who has served within a generation (an uncle, a father, a mother), two at most. This guy does not have one single ancestor serving for *all* his family history?
That's weird.
Obviously, there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it is weird, and not, I would suggest, part of the common American experience - especially not for those who were born in the 20th century.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)I agree, there isn't anything ...wrong.. about it and I also agree that I don't believe we'd find many families able to say this, unless perhaps they descended from Quakers, Amish, Mennonites or other religious communities which are pacifists.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)serve,don't serve. Go to France. It's up to them.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I did the research and as far back as I could tell, none served.
Here's my line:
1. Father - Served in Vietnam with the 101st Airborne
2. Grandfather (mom's dad) - Served in World War II during the Normandy Invasion
3. Grandfather (dad's dad) - Served in World War II
4. Great Grandfather (mom's mom's dad) - Served in World War I
We were a military family. This generation, my cousins, brother and myself, are the first to not serve in the military.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)after all, he was born there ...