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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStudy: Lead and other toxic metals found in e-cigarette 'vapors'
Significant amounts of toxic metals, including lead, leak from some e-cigarette heating coils and are present in the aerosols inhaled by users, according to a study from scientists at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
In the study, published online in Environmental Health Perspectives on February 21, the scientists examined e-cigarette devices owned by a sample of 56 users. They found that significant numbers of the devices generated aerosols with potentially unsafe levels of lead, chromium, manganese and/or nickel. Chronic inhalation of these metals has been linked to lung, liver, immune, cardiovascular and brain damage, and even cancers.
The Food and Drug Administration has the authority to regulate e-cigarettes but is still considering how to do so. The finding that e-cigarettes expose users--known as vapers--to what may be harmful levels of toxic metals could make this issue a focus of future FDA rules.
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-02/jhub-sla022118.php
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)If something is not regulated, this is what happens. I have been telling people for years they dont know what is in those things and they probably are not safe.
ret5hd
(20,523 posts)don't pretend they are "safe".
We are satisfied with "safer".
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)AND wished each cig was as long a Pinocchio's nose!
Now I puff my ecig...reducing the the amount of nicotine over time, (which I could NOT do with cigs) till I then know it's an oral problem, not a smoking problem.
I am down to 12 mg nicotine from the max of 32..or was it 33? Anyway, not smoking more or less with the lowered amount.
Then I can either quit or search for safer oral fixes!
Mosby
(16,365 posts)I used it to stop smoking. Unlike other NRTs, this delivers the nicotine when you need it. It does not use heat.
I followed the European/Australian guidelines that allows you to cut back slowly. I was a two pack a day smoker, the first day I started with the inhalers I only smoked 11 cigs. Then I slowly tapered myself down from there. I used them for more than six months, I haven't smoked a cigarette for almost 10 years.
https://www.nicotrol.com/inhaler
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Is it available in the US of A?
earthshine
(1,642 posts)The nic addiction is only two-three days of withdrawal. It's changing your habits and thoughts that is the difficult part. The mind will play it's tricks for years to come.
It's harder to train oneself to have a cup of coffee without a cig, or to finish the dinner without one, than it is to get over the nic.
Also, for a 9-5 office worker, the notion of the cig break is laden with connotation unrelated to smoking.
No-nic e-cigs are the perfect thing to have on hand until your subconscious mind decides it's done with smoking.
Every few weeks or so, I still have an e-cig. It's like a piece of candy, now. A treat that is not addictive.
Quitting cigs has improved my life in so many ways.
Best of luck to you!!!
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Next will be 2% then 0% I will find out if the habit is just oral fetish then!
Then I can deal with that problem.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)in public spaces, where other people would be exposed.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)I don't cough all night, which used to keep me awake...ecigs are FAR better than real cigs...from one who has experienced both.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Or patches are.
I quit 8 smoking years ago. Cold turkey. One the hardest and smartest things I ever did.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)very expensive and useless for me..
You claim to be a saint and the rest of us sinners cause we didn't go cold turkey...
IF your addiction is based on the oral addiction gum nor patches work.
And I bet 50+ are about oral satisfaction.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)you are WAY too defensive
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)You seem to be the defensive one?
Skittles
(153,193 posts)thereby proving my point
OVER AND OUT
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)I am sorry if I did. I said quitting was one of the hardest things I did.
But these vapor machines and some of the liquids are made in places like China. There is no way to know what is in them because they have been completely unregulated. I just think they could be worse than cigarettes, especially if they are finding heavy metals in them. I'm glad they are finally going to regulate them, but who knows what has passed for vape in the meantime?
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)but if there are regulations, they will become tobacco companies owners.
I prefer small companies to dispense their own brands...not tobacco companies poisoning everybody based on political contributions
Ms. Toad
(34,099 posts)I remember some pretty knock-down, drag-out fights about (1) they're harmless and (2) they will always be limited to small boutique marketing.
The discussions were in connection with the push to regulate marketing in the same way cigarette marketing was regulated in order to prevent grooming another generation of people addicted to nicotine. I was poo-poohed, patted on the head, and told I didn't know what I was talking about . . . as the tobacco giants moved in and started marketing kiddie flavors.
ETA: I'm all in favor of ecigs as an alternative to regular cigarettes, especially in terms of their pretty remarkable ability to wean people away from regular cigarettes. My concern was enticing a new generation to e-smoking via advertising campaigns similar to the campaigns that glamorized smoking regular cigarettes.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)And I thought they were supposed to stop actors from smoking cigs?
Maybe I'm out of the loop?
earthshine
(1,642 posts)Here (but not at home) I've seen a number of 20-ish people (all women) using these big vape things when out and about.
It's something the size of a small bottle, and it visibly delivers a lot more vapor than an e-cig. (Huge clouds!)
I guess it's the equivalent of an e-cigar. Maybe an e-bong.
It looks stupid and highly inconvenient. (Probably, about as stupid as seeing people with actual cigs.)
Peace.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,727 posts)E-cigarette use among middle school and high school students tripled in one year, reported the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday. The new data shows that e-cigarette use has surpassed the use of all tobacco products, including regular cigarettes, among young people.
The data, published in the CDCs Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, shows that e-cigarette use among high schoolers increased from 4.5% in 2013 to 13.4% in 2014. Thats a rise from about 660,000 students to 2 million, the CDC says. Use among middle schoolers rose from 1.1% to 3.9% in the same time period.
http://time.com/3825218/ecig-teens/
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Cigarette smoke contains over 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known cancer-causing (carcinogenic) compounds and 400 other toxins. These cigarette ingredients include nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide, as well as formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and DDT.
OnlinePoker
(5,727 posts)Instead, they market vaping as a safe choice and sell flavored oils to get the kids hooked even though they produce toxic vapor. You want to vape, that's fine, but stop making it only about what's in cigarettes while you ignore the health risks posed by vaping. I personally wouldn't want to be sucking in lead or other heavy metals every time I sucked on one of these.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)probably gambling?
OnlinePoker
(5,727 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)takes away from the vegas contributors.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,099 posts)The big tobacco companies were just starting to enter the market - and the FDA was just considering whether to regulate advertising for ecigs.
widespread marketing of fruit, candy, mint and even alcohol flavors (Figure 1)
romantic or sexual imagery (Figure 2)
celebrity endorsements (Figure 3)
event sponsorships (Figure 4)
social media (Figure 5)
https://tobacco.ucsf.edu/fda-should-restrict-e-cigarette-marketing-protect-youth-part-currently-proposed-regulation
There was a lot of push-back from DU members who insisted that big tobacco would never seriously be involved, and certainly would never glamorize it to create a new (addicted) set of consumers.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)in public places shouldn't apply to them.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)and what in the hell is eurekalert?
I don't link to strange websites.
OnlinePoker
(5,727 posts)EurekAlert! is an online, global news service operated by AAAS, the science society.
https://www.eurekalert.org/aboutus.php
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Cigarette smoke contains over 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known cancer-causing (carcinogenic) compounds and 400 other toxins. These cigarette ingredients include nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide, as well as formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and DDT.
http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/whatsinit.htm
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)be allowed to vape in public places.
I don't care what they do in their own homes, where they don't affect anyone else. But no one should have to breathe those fumes at work or in public spaces.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Vape the same place you can smoke...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pnwmom
(108,995 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pnwmom
(108,995 posts)in theaters, and in other public spaces.
I disagreed.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... numbers which is too opaque to conclude all the devices produce these metals.
Also, at what level of fill does it produce these levels ?!
I don't trust big tabbaco on this
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)same ads, different docs.