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This is all coming together. Turn on Rachel now. (Original Post) sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 OP
Very interesting show, for sure. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #1
Watching it now. n/t GP6971 Feb 2018 #2
right FUGGIN' now Skittles Feb 2018 #3
Ballsy.... HipChick Feb 2018 #4
Manatee caught unloading the Russian caviar? poboy2 Feb 2018 #5
Excellent explanation of a specific type of bank fraud Generic Brad Feb 2018 #6
She already explained this weeks ago. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #7
Heres my question... PunksMom Feb 2018 #8
Financial and tax fraud are also indictable state-level felonies Spider Jerusalem Feb 2018 #9
Thank you, PunksMom Feb 2018 #11
Well, then what if Wednesdays Feb 2018 #12
lol @ the idea of a guy like Manafort moving to rural Mississippi or Wyoming Spider Jerusalem Feb 2018 #13
how does all this relate to drumpf? Takket Feb 2018 #10

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
6. Excellent explanation of a specific type of bank fraud
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:33 PM
Feb 2018

The forging of P&L statements to inflate net worth so as to secure undeserved loans is very similar to what Tom Petters did. But Manafort and Gates have amped it up and have also coupled money laundering and theft in ways Rachel did not get into tonight.

These guys are guilty beyond doubt.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
7. She already explained this weeks ago.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:34 PM
Feb 2018

I knew from her that Manafort did this because he was greedy and broke. Rachel did a story when she said that his daughters asked each other, "Why is Dad suddenly so cheap?". She also explained why he volunteered to work for the Moron for free. He was so desperate for his money in Ukraine to be freed up that he considered it an "investment" which would benefit him when sanctions were lifted and he had access to his money.

The one thing that I do wonder about is why he lived in a gated condo complex when the FBI raided his home and arrested him in the early morning. If he had so much money in real estate investments, why didn't he live in a private home that was private, large, secluded and had security? Am I missing something here?

PunksMom

(440 posts)
8. Heres my question...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:44 PM
Feb 2018

Does this all really matter if this asshat, and Gates both get pardoned by tRump? I mean, it’s a very real thing that could happen.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
9. Financial and tax fraud are also indictable state-level felonies
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:47 PM
Feb 2018

so they could be facing charges in NY, Virginia, or elsewhere. So a presidential pardon for federal offences may not help.

Wednesdays

(17,386 posts)
12. Well, then what if
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 11:58 PM
Feb 2018

they just hole themselves up in the reddest community in the reddest town in the middle of the reddest state, and say to everyone, "Just try to come and get us!" What then?

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
13. lol @ the idea of a guy like Manafort moving to rural Mississippi or Wyoming
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:12 AM
Feb 2018

and double lol @ the idea of a police chief or sheriff refusing to extradite someone wanted on multiple felony charges in another state for whom there are valid arrest warrants.

Takket

(21,583 posts)
10. how does all this relate to drumpf?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 11:08 PM
Feb 2018

nice the manafort is getting busted but i don't want the knight. i want the king.

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