Hmmmm . . . . . . .

[Stinky The Clown]

So Mueller is upping the charges against Manafort and Gates. He is turning the pressure on them up to eleventeen.

Why? He already has charges against each of them that would keep them in prison for the rest of their natural lives. Why waste time and resources on someone who you already own?

Clearly there is a bigger target. And it is not Bannon, or Jared, or The Czarina. Not Uday and Qusay. Not even the various camp followers, court jesters, and hangers on. It is only one target. A big, fatassed orange one.

The others will all get theirs in due course. No worries. Whoever in that group will be charged will be slam dunks. Irrefutable proof.

The big target, it seems to me, will be charged with felonies. No unindicted coconspirator this time. Nope. Real charges. I believe Mueller already knows what happened and has the proof he would need to charge if his target were not in the position he is.

Mueller needs a mountain of facts. He needs an indictment as thick as the DC phone book.

If you are going to charge the President of the United States with crimes against the United States, the charges need to be crystal clear so there can be no doubt. No one can find them to be fake news.

He doesn't need Manafort to flip. But he wants that. He wants that because Manafort was the direct link to Putin. He wants Manafort to be the one that says it. He wants Manafort to say "I worked for Russia to get Donald Trump elected President. I worked with Donald Trump's full knowledge and consent."

I'm not sure when this will happen, but it will happen soon.

My suggestion as a way to help Manafort get his mind right is Mueller offer some serious protection from the Russian assassins that will be dispatched to kill him.

This will be the biggest single event in the history of the United States. An enemy agent in the White House. Our national secrets may already have been passed.

I have faith we will survive and prosper.





These are my thoughts. Comments solicited.

[MaryMagdaline]

1. Nothing to add - every word you say is true

[Ferrets are Cool]

2. Well said. The more charges, the more reason to deal.

[kentuck]

3. I'm glad that you have faith that we will survive and prosper.

[Phoenix61]

4. I think Mueller is a very through kind

of person. He's going to dig down to the bottom until he hits rock because that's what he does. It's his job. It's not personal. Kinda like playing with a human Rubic Cube.

[scheming daemons]

5. Trump's going to try to pardon them.... soon.

I hope Mueller has Schneiderman involved, so that there are unpardonable state-charges.

[Stinky The Clown]

6. I have no doubt Schneiderman is in the loop. As to pardons, that kinda doesn't matter.

Meuller subpoenas Manafort. Manafort has to answer. Mueller asks questions. Manafort answers or again falls afoul of the law.

[scheming daemons]

7. And if he "against falls foul with the law"... what stops him from being pardoned for THAT?

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Nothing. And the cycle continues.

Meanwhile President Fatass is increasingly in fits of rage until he snaps.

[Hekate]

8. KnR

[BigmanPigman]

10. On CNN and MSNBC the pundits agreed that there is almost TOO MUCH

in the money trails and that Mueller will be going through all of it and it will probably go well into 2019. This is a thorough investigation and Mueller is not rushing it. They also said Manafort may be pardoned and of course NY AG Schneiderman will nail him. And, there is so much "horrific" evidence against him that he WILL go to Fed Prison for life or Putin will have him killed. Maybe he will hang himself before that...who knows.

What I can't figure out is why Manafort lived in a condo complex when the FBI woke him up to arrest him if he owned multi million dollar real estate? Why not a nice, big separate house with a security gate and no neighbors and HOA rules to follow? I know he is pretty stupid but come on!

[joanbarnes]

12. I think you are right. I hope you are right.

[TalenaGor]

13. I'm beginning to wonder if it's even bigger than Trump in the United States if there might be

Worldwide effort.... I mean ultimately if Trump is a demon Putin is Satan lol ....

[triron]

14. Maddow tonite brought up that some officer of the Federal Savings Bank

was offered job as Secretary of the Army after the bank loaned
Manafort 16 million dollars in 2016.

[NoMoreRepugs]

15. The Mueller investigation is like a fine threaded

ten foot wood screw..... tremendous number of turns to get the HEAD flush with the wood so it's locked into place.

[herding cats]

16. My one question is, how can anyone offer protection from Russian assassins?

Once you’ve went down that rabbit hole, is there any way you can exist and not be under their threat?

I’m in no way being snarky or rude, I just cannot imagine an out once you went that far. It seems to me life as you knew it is over forever. Either you tow the line or you wait to be removed for being too big of a liability. Which is quite literally where Manafort is at I suspect.

[C Moon]

17. "Our national secrets may already have been passed."

No doubt.
That's the fucking scary part.
I've been focusing on Trump being a dictator, but it now seems like even if we get the criminal ass in prison, the U.S. could be in danger of an attack.

[Honeycombe8]

18. You file charges whenever there is evidence of a crime, even if there are other crimes.

If someone is charged with first degree murder, and you find evidence he killed a second person, do you not file charges because he's already charged with murdering someone else? Of course you do.

Also, you never know what a jury will do. Manafort & Gates might be acquitted on the other charges. That tax evasion charge is heavy duty stuff. You don't mess around with Jim. And you don't mess around with the IRS.

[MyOwnPeace]

19. And when it happens...........

we need a new chant (perhaps led by Flynn ):

NOT "Lock him up!"

INSTEAD:

"FRY HIS ASS! - FRY HIS ASS! - FRY HIS ASS! - FRY HIS ASS!"

[Vinca]

20. There is talk this morning that Gates and Manafort aren't folding because they've been promised

a pardon. Time for the New York AG to drop a few charges Trump can't pardon.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. A pardon might help Manafort, but not Trump.

In fact, it could hurt him.

A pardon makes Manafort unprosecutable but not immune to subpoenas to give testimony. Once he testifies, he can't lie. If he does lie then he gets more federal charges for that.