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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:43 AM Feb 2018

Until I find out exactly what the officer was doing

It is hard to be critical of him was he in contact with outside police? Was he moving from location to location? Did he run to his car or someplace to hide?

Remember all the police at the Hollywood shootout in 97?

Police had to get ar 15s at a sporting goods store because their service weapons were no match for Phillips and martzineranu.

Was he a coward or doing his job?

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Until I find out exactly what the officer was doing (Original Post) Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2018 OP
I am sorry to say, I had to google that irisblue Feb 2018 #1
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #2
Why, oh why are people wasting time debating this? Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #3
excellent point....wait for back up...or thats what they say on the cop shows dembotoz Feb 2018 #4
It's all too easy to criticize the officer in this situation VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #5
I alway thought police mercuryblues Feb 2018 #6
not anymore DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2018 #7
Tough decision for him to make. world wide wally Feb 2018 #8

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
3. Why, oh why are people wasting time debating this?
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:52 AM
Feb 2018

The politicians are the cowards.

My response to someone calling coward from afar is "are you willing to walk up say that to the face of an armed man?"

Cruz seems to be a coward. 'Rump appears to act like a Coward, etc., are okay with me to say anywhere.

dembotoz

(16,811 posts)
4. excellent point....wait for back up...or thats what they say on the cop shows
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:54 AM
Feb 2018

obviously i am not a cop and never wanted to be.

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
5. It's all too easy to criticize the officer in this situation
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 10:55 AM
Feb 2018

Depending on what he heard, the sheer quantity and rapidity of shots fired could have sounded like far more than one shooter to someone unfamiliar with the capabilities of an AR-15. Had he run into the building without any idea of where the shooter was or his direction of movement and actually found him, it's more likely that the officer would have been the 18th victim. He clearly would have been out-gunned.
The shooter getting into the school with a gun was just the last in a long chain of failures, starting with allowing someone with known mental and emotional issues from having the gun in the first place. The school resource officer was just the last inadequate line of defense.

mercuryblues

(14,536 posts)
6. I alway thought police
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:02 AM
Feb 2018

were trained not to go in without backup, if they thought they were out gunned or out manned. Only on TV do you see the lone, outgunned cop running into a hail of bullets and never gets shot and catches the bad guy.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
7. not anymore
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:06 AM
Feb 2018

Well not since Columbine. Current active shooter protocol at every agency I am familiar with is to engage the shooter as soon as possible.

world wide wally

(21,748 posts)
8. Tough decision for him to make.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:10 AM
Feb 2018

It would have been about 90% suicidal. But for whatever reason, that is what he signed up for. I feel sorry for him that he was that close to retirement as well. That means he wasn't in the best physical condition of his life as well. If the shooter had a conventional weapon, I would call him a coward for sure, but thanks to the NRA that was not the case. The real "cowards" are in Congress and the Senate. The Resource Officer was just not a brave man.

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