Watch The Firfight With The Germans At The End Of "Saving Private Ryan".

[TheMastersNemesis]

The late scene of the firefight with the Americans and Germans is a good graphic of what a real fire fight would look like. In a way these massacres might be very similar with regards to the chaos.

[GulfCoast66]

1. I think the beach land scene more realistic

During the last scene at least the Americans were able to defend themselves, although it looked dire.

On the beach they were sitting ducks with no way to fight back. Just like school kids facing a a semiautomatic weapon.

[roscoeroscoe]

2. Pretty good analogy

That's why the beach was so freaking crazy, you're either hit or not - nothing you can do. Just try to get off the damn beach, out the damn school.

Yeesh.

[TheMastersNemesis]

4. That Scene Just As Good Showing The Chaos. My Point Was The Chaos Between -------

fighting soldiers. Just all the bullets flying everywhere from both sides. They were not aiming in many cases they were spraying the area.

[paleotn]

3. Training training training training

Our natural inclination is to run and hide. It takes significant training to get people to fight and risk their lives in a coordinated fashion. It's just not natural.

That's why poorly trained blow hards are most likely to piss their pants. OH, but we should arm teachers or rented security when even law enforcement freezes in place.

[BSdetect]

5. The Face of Battle

A good read re training / combat etc

There is a mention about Marine training that is very interesting.

The Face of Battle: A Study of Agincourt, Waterloo, and the Somme. Jan 27, 1983
by John Keegan