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Motley13

(3,867 posts)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:42 AM Feb 2018

Common Myths Too Many People Get Wrong About Gun Control

not for those that think Cheat Sheet is click-bait

some excerpts, more at site

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/common-myths-too-many-people-get-wrong-about-gun-control.html/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Culture%202018-02-23&utm_term=Culture


In Australia, when lawmakers responded to a deadly mass shooting in 1996, gun-related homicide rates dropped by 42%. That country’s gun buyback program confiscated about 650,000 guns, resulting in lower homicide rates. According to IZA researchers, taking back 3,500 guns per 100,000 created a 50% drop in homicide rates. The next myth makes very little sense, when you think about it.


The Second Amendment reads, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” The part about “well-regulated” is often ignored. As The New Yorker pointed out, “If the Founders hadn’t wanted guns to be regulated, and thoroughly, they would not have put the phrase ‘well regulated’ in the amendment.”

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Common Myths Too Many People Get Wrong About Gun Control (Original Post) Motley13 Feb 2018 OP
A Common Myth is that the SCOTUS Said You Couldn't Regulate Guns Stallion Feb 2018 #1
The original draft of the Declaration of Independence marylandblue Feb 2018 #2
That term Timewas Feb 2018 #3
That's a right wing L I E. GeorgeGist Feb 2018 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Timewas Feb 2018 #7
What then do you believe is the precise and relevant difference between the two LanternWaste Feb 2018 #5
How do you know that? If words and phrases have much more different meanings today than lunamagica Feb 2018 #6

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
1. A Common Myth is that the SCOTUS Said You Couldn't Regulate Guns
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 11:50 AM
Feb 2018

in fact, Scalia in the Heller case said quite clearly that the government can in fact regulate the sale and use of guns.

“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited…”. It is “…not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

“Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

Yet it is very common to hear NRA Gun-Nutters claim that the 2nd Amendment is absolute

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. The original draft of the Declaration of Independence
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

Sadi "Life, liberty and the pursuit of military hardware," but the damn liberals made Jefferson change it.

Also, the Bible says, "Blessed are the gunmakers, for they shall make profits."

Timewas

(2,195 posts)
3. That term
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:53 PM
Feb 2018

And I know I will get roasted for this but here goes... In the 1700s era the term "Well Regulated" actually referred to well trained not well controlled..A lot of words and phrases have much much different meanings today that they did 200+ years ago.

Roast away

Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #4)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. What then do you believe is the precise and relevant difference between the two
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:08 PM
Feb 2018

What then do you believe is the precise and relevant difference between the two as it applies to the here and the now, and on what objective evidence do you support your premise?



"Roast away..."
(self-styled martyrdom, while validating, does little to support your premise)

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
6. How do you know that? If words and phrases have much more different meanings today than
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:10 PM
Feb 2018

they did 200+ years ago, why is "right to bear arms" written in stone? Perhaps it had a different meaning back then. Perhaps what they meant is a right to bear arms, being that it could get so hot and there was no air conditioning back then. That makes as much sense as what you wrote.

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