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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe Need To Talk About Black Lives And Gun Violence After The Florida Shooting
Gun violence is more than mass shootings in schools - its the most common cause of death of young men 16-19. Dont forget the folks who have been beating the drum for other forms of gun violence - if I march for safe schools, I need to march against police violence, and gun deaths in all forms. When I say, never again, I need to mean no mother should cry over her childs fatal gunshot wound.
In the week since a gunman killed 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida, there has been a national reckoning ― from student-led marches to wall-to-wall media coverage to White House events ― about gun violence and how to stop it.
For some black activists who have long been mobilizing around gun violence, the current wave of public attention and outrage over the issue is welcome. But it also invites the question of why theres been comparatively little attention and outrage focused on the even more common reality of routine gun homicides in the country, which disproportionately affect communities of color, and specifically black Americans.
Prominent black organizers and public figures have also noted the largely positive public response to the student activists from Parkland ― most of whom are not black and who attended school in a largely white, relatively affluent Florida suburb ― compared to the frequent vilification of young black activists protesting gun violence, particularly police shootings.
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When black activists have taken to the streets to protest police shootings, members of law enforcement have met them in full riot gear, and at times attacked them with tear gas. By contrast, the largely non-black student activists from Parkland have been invited to a CNN town hall event with lawmakers.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a8f1a11e4b00804dfe6a466/amp
And this article:
"Why It Hurts When the World Loves Everyone but Us"
https://www.theroot.com/why-it-hurts-when-the-world-loves-everyone-but-us-1823253675
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,451 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)But isn't it interesting the difference in the way the protesters have been met by law enforcement?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I am not sure I understand your reply....
I suggested that the age limit for gun purchases be raised to 21 because the article talks about the amount of crime amongst the age group....
Nothing to do with color....age....
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)"isn't it interesting the difference in the way the protesters have been met by law enforcement?"
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Yes, it is a noticeable difference....its undeniable....
handmade34
(22,758 posts)it is a needed discussion... but the answer lies in the same reason we started to look at "crack" vs "cocaine"... putting emphasis on "opioid abuse" when it started to increasingly affect white middle class people... why we are now legalizing marijuana because so many middle and upper white people smoke it (oh, and the money)...
we still collectively value white middle class people more than others
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)malaise
(269,193 posts)Rec
logosoco
(3,208 posts)and I admit most of what i learned I learned from TV shows (Breaking Bad, The Wire) but it seems to me an awful lot of the shootings would stop if we ended the drug war. No more fighting over "territory", no more shooting someone because they may be a snitch.
Think about the fighting that would occur if we outlawed toilet paper or tomatoes.
The drug war has not reduced the use of drugs. People like taking drugs or using alcohol. The best we can do is to have a lot of places where folks who need help getting off drugs can go.
As a pot smoker, I feel some relief now that it is becoming less illegal in this country. I never needed a weapon to defend or cover my use, but I can see how other people have and it has been so needless.
Just my $.02!
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)I have long advocated that if your main goal is to eliminate gun deaths it is far more efficient to focus your effort on reducing the base reasons for that violence than by cracking down in guns where 99% of your effort will be focused on people who would have never misused the gun.
And it pays off more. If you have $1,000,000 to try and reduce gun violence in a city and all you do is buy back guns all the roots causes of that violence still exist and it will still manifest itself in other ways.
But if you spend that on programs that will keep people from going down that lifestyle of crime and gang activity you have a better effect. You not only eliminate the gun violence but all another types too. And you improve peoples lives because the programs that work are ones aimed at keeping at risk youth in schools, eliminating poverty, providing economic assistance, etc.
And when you eliminate the incentive for crime in those communities you lessen the chance of negative interaction with police or the criminal justice system.
Attack the causes of violence to eliminate it, not the symptoms or tools.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)But its my impression that most white people still avoid this every discussion chance they get
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,451 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I need to keep listening and discussing.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)percentage (+/-70%?) are repeat offenders?
Shoot they even know who many are in Chicago!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-police-violence-strategy-met-20160722-story.html