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spanone

(135,874 posts)
3. what's hard to believe is that republicans couldn't care less about the integrity of our elections
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:08 PM
Feb 2018

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
5. You're right to not beLIEve it...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:10 PM
Feb 2018

It is not true. The Russians changed vote totals in key districts in swing states to make sure that their intended outcome became reality... There is no other reality-based explanation for the swing in results experienced in the final week of the campaign and really in the final 12 hours.

Trump is the least qualified man to ever RUN for office, not POTUS mind you...ANY office. He is a national tragedy every second he infests 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

The Russians OWN him, literally and figuratively and his behavior only makes sense in that light - especially the lack of enforcing sanctions regarding this whole affair.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. Perhaps if you correctly understood the system, you'd understand
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:11 PM
Feb 2018

Russia hacked voter data files. That has information about voters like address and party registration and voting history. That is not the system that counts votes in the states that use electronic vote tabulation.

Two different systems. Hacking into the first is not hacking into the second system.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. I don't believe it would still be secret if it'd happened.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:23 PM
Feb 2018

Even if our party decided to stay quiet after determining it for the sake of national stability or something, too many different voting systems, too many people who know about them, too many high-level independent analysts, too many investigative journalists, too many wealthy liberals eager to fund investigation, too many intelligence services who have a real problem with this government.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
8. Again, please stop with the strawman of direct voter count hacking it's been trolled
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:18 PM
Feb 2018

... here before and its condescending.

They hack the voter data files to purge voters in MOST of the red states that have enacted voter suppression measure and shave off 1 - 2% like what happened in Florida in 2000.

No one is counting provisional in the red lead states were the voter suppression measures have be put in place.

Until then there's no need to give this current system the benefit of the doubt which is the goal of Benedict Donald and the Russians

genxlib

(5,535 posts)
11. There is one solution to get the proper attention on this issue
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:37 PM
Feb 2018

That is to make the GOP understand they are potential victims.

To date, they have benefited from the interference so they a) don't see it as wrong b) have no real reason to stop it

But Putin is a fickle mistress. He has no real affinity with the GOP or Trump or anyone else. He uses the tool that best suits him and Trump was the idiot he was able to weaponize against us.

But if Trump becomes too weakened to actually remove sanctions, then he will take what is behind door #2. That is a chaotic and fractured US political system.

So when the game changes to simple pot stirring, there is no assurance he will continue to back the GOP entirely. If the goal is political strife, then it would make sense to work against both in ways to weaken them.

The GOP are fools if they don't realize they are playing with fire. They might be willing to sell-out the Country but maybe they would look differently if their party was in danger.

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