Trump: Take Away Guns from the Mentally Ill Immediately!

[chuckstevens]

Hey Asshole: President Obama did this and YOU REVERSED IT!

He is completely delusional!

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Ok we will go to all the mental hospitals that Reagan closed down and pick them right up. No problem

[former9thward]

26. Mental hospitals are funded and run by the states.

Not the federal government. And if you want to blame Reagan for shutting something down then why weren't they started back up after him? He has been gone for 30 years now. Should we go back and blame Grover Cleveland if something bad happened in his administration? How far do we go back? Is nothing the responsibility of those who follow?

[mr_lebowski]

30. Joke's kinda on you here ... he shut 'em down in California as governor ;)

You're right they could've been restarted/re-opened, but he's sorta famous for having done so.

It is factual that many other states followed Reagan's example, and that hence there's a lot more mentally ill on the streets, and it's more likely they could get guns than it would be in a hospital.

Although I also believe there's no evidence that the clinically medically ill are any more likely to shoot anyone than an average citizen is so it's not a useful solution ... even if we COULD go out and 'find' all the mentally ill ...

[former9thward]

32. Reagan has not been governor of CA since 1974.

44 years by my calendar. And there has been many Democratic governors and super majority Democratic CA legislatures since then. Why haven't they changed it if it is a problem? Why didn't you mention all the lawsuits the ACLU filed in the 60s and 70s arguing the mentally ill could not be confined by the state? Did those have no affect on the situation? The joke is on you.

[The_Casual_Observer]

33. Guess what Jack? We are still feeling it. It was so ghastly

It was never reversed. Take it and go ok?

[former9thward]

34. No, I won't

[FiveGoodMen]

2. Also, take away the launch codes.

[Scurrilous]

31. ...

[MFM008]

3. I noticed

No one mentioned that.... he OVERTURNED the Obama rule .

[Demsrule86]

4. He signed an EA that rescinded an Obama EA to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

[HipChick]

5. How come the media does not remind him of this, everytime he spouts his nonsense?

[Demsrule86]

17. I don't know. I can see why the Democrats didn't do it as they are hoping for a deal. I doubt he

will give them one just like DACA but I would try to if there was any chance.

[Lee-Lee]

15. Thats not what it really was, however

The Obama EO said anyone with a representative payer for Social Security was automatically assumed mentally ill to the point of being unable to possess firearms.

When in fact there was no basis for that assumption.

Even the ACLU was against that rule.

[Demsrule86]

16. Parsing words.

If you can not manage your own affairs because of mental impairment or some other cause, you should not have a gun. President Obama was right.

[Lee-Lee]

18. But not all people get a repressive payee because of that

Like I said, even the ACLU was against that move, both because it badly stereotypes and stigmatized a whole group of people and becuse it totally stripped that class of peoples of a civil right with no due process.

[Demsrule86]

19. If you can't manage your own affaires...you surely should not have a gun...

Generally...mental incompetence and or mental illness is the reason for this. For short term issues a temporary power of attorney would be sufficient.

[Lee-Lee]

20. We dont remove civil rights based on broad brushes and generally

And we also don’t do it without due process.

If Trump used that same standard and precedent to purge voter rolls, arguing if you can’t manage your financial affairs you can’t be responsible enough to vote, would you be ok with that?

Because that’s what you open the door to allowing other rights to be curtailed in that way.

[Demsrule86]

24. guns are different.

[hack89]

21. So use due process to take away their guns.

what is wrong with due process?

[Demsrule86]

23. I think Obama was correct and that Trump rescinded it and has blood on his hands.

A gun is not something those who can not manage their affairs need and it is a waste of time to go to court for all of them.

[hack89]

25. So every situation is identical and everyone of those people is a danger to themselves or others?

and you know this how? Have you considered that there are numerous reasons why people let others manage their affairs?

But you don't care. You hear guns and that's all you need. You must have loved the Patriot Act and terrorist watch lists.

[former9thward]

27. What blood does he have on his hands?

The Florida shooter was not covered by the Obama EO. What shooter was?

[JDC]

6. He'll now say he did what Obama didn't. He is delusional. .

[doc03]

7. So this means Trump can't own a gun

[lame54]

8. Is he disbanding the NRA?

[Marengo]

9. The reversal was supported by the ACLU and others disabled civil right advocacy groups.

[chuckstevens]

11. OMG! Are you defending Trump?

[Marengo]

12. The ACLU did in this instance, take it up with them. The rule was discriminatory and quite frankly..

Shameful.

[Fred Sanders]

28. I agree. It was not properly thought out. Mental illness in not a crime,

Shitler is treating all mental illness as a crime; but no doubt there are a few who should never have firearms. There should still be a law and not just writing it all off as Trump did with NO replacement.

And what about folks on the terrorism list? That should be a no brainer, as long as the list is trustworthy, which has been a problem as well.

The issue is where is the line between dangerous and not dangerous mentally ill?

[hack89]

22. I think he is defending the ACLU. nt

[spanone]

10. the breitbart's of the world are going nuts....

i won't link, but headline:

Trump the Gun Grabber: Cedes Dems’ Wish List— Bump Stocks, Buying Age, ‘Assault Weapons,’ Background Checks…

…Tells Scalise to Take a Hike — After Surviving Assassination Attempt

[secondwind]

13. Most gun-owning Trumpers are mentally ill.

[mnmoderatedem]

14. so where's Ted Nugent?

is he going to go on a rant over Trump actually doing something which he falsely accused Obama of doing?

[ProfessorGAC]

29. OK, Let's Start With This List

Cheney; Nugent; Jones; Cruz; Uday and Kusay, (crazy and stupid); oh the list goes on.