The Shape of Water....

[Docreed2003]

An incredibly captivating movie and I applaud its “Best Picture” award!!!!

[nolabear]

1. I liked it but liked both Three Billboards and Get Out better.

I have seen the woman/creature story SO many times. I adored Gill Man as a kid, but except for the beauty of the creature it just didn’t seem original.

But I did enjoy it.

[Docreed2003]

5. Except the point of the movie isnt

“The gill man”....

The focus on the movie is the lead actress and the actions she takes in this flick...that’s what makes it unique from “Creature from the Black Lagoon” or any other creature feature of that time.

No, it isn’t original, but the story itself with its focus of the female protagonist was original.

[madaboutharry]

2. Agree with what you said.

I think it's a great movie.

[democratisphere]

3. Can't wait to see it!

[Docreed2003]

4. Its a pretty incredible movie

[democratisphere]

7. Just the clips I saw this evening were amazing.

I can't wait to get to a theater to see it! Thanks for your recommendation Docreed2003!

[AlexSFCA]

6. its a great movie, the story is not original

but the presentation is! The way this movie presented inequality including gender, sexuality, race and disability was innovative - subtle and powerfully effective. And that’s the real story and message of this movie - good people do not discriminate.

[Docreed2003]

8. Exactly...

No...”Creature from the Black Lagoon” isn’t original...what was original in this story was the highlighting of female power, gender equality, and female sexuality....

[Tess49]

14. Possibly plagerized from Paul Zindel's play "Let Me Hear You Whisper" from 1969. The

similarities are striking. Zindel's estate is suing.

[madaboutharry]

17. I can think of scores of movies with striking similarities.

There are common ideas and tropes that are universal and seen over and over again in literature and film. Ideas and tropes can not be copywrited and these cases are not easily proven.

Can one say that this movie is too similar to a mid 80's film called "Starman" starring Jeff Bridges as an alien who crash lands in Wisconsin and finds help from a lonely young and pretty widow? There is the 'falling in love" with a non-human, the bad guys from the secret government agency who want to capture him and study him, the mad rush to help him escape to the place where he can return safely to his own environment. These are not ideas any one writer can own.

Does having an injured cat or a record player in a movie amount to plagiarism? I think it is going to be a tough case.

[Tess49]

18. It likely will be a tough case. However, comparing the two, they appear to be almost identical.

By the way, "Starman" is a film I really enjoyed. I may hunt it down and watch it again.

[LexVegas]

9. Is that the one about Abe Sapien? nt

[Lobo27]

10. With del Toro's win

4 of the last 5 winning directors have been Mexican.

[Docreed2003]

11. Wow...thats incredible!!

[WiffenPoof]

12. Did you see Vedder...

Sing that Petty song tonight. It was very moving.

I'm going to miss Tom Petty.

[Docreed2003]

16. Yeah that was great!

[WiffenPoof]

13. I really wanted Daniel Day-Lewis...

To win tonight.

I think he is the greatest actor of our era.

I think he would have tied for the most Oscars had he won.

[Mme. Defarge]

15. Moi aussi -

absolument formidable!