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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,558 posts)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:00 PM Mar 2018

Popehat: "Yeah, not funny any more, now that I've watched. I don't think he's well."

Yeah, not funny any more, now that I’ve watched. I don’t think he’s well. Reminder: sometimes we (and I specifically include myself) laugh nastily at mental illness.



I’ve actually been relying on descriptions of these tv interviews and now that I watch one it’s making me kind of sick.



I know it’s compelling to watch Sam’s bizarre interviews right now...but I’m actually concerned that someone I’ve known a long time is not okay...


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Popehat: "Yeah, not funny any more, now that I've watched. I don't think he's well." (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2018 OP
He was involved in a cult to destroy my country MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #1
Agree. Some may want to go high, but that time has LONG past. -eom poboy2 Mar 2018 #2
We Can Also Reserve Our Sympathy for Someone Who... Leith Mar 2018 #16
Sewer rat ... 👌 MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #18
Then maybe his LAWYER needs to ask for a competence hearing? flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #3
Says some random twitter fuck named Popehat GusBob Mar 2018 #4
Same reason we should take you seriously. Squinch Mar 2018 #5
Sympathy for a racist right-wing POS? Not in this life: John Fante Mar 2018 #6
Nah, he's just a brave drunk. TomSlick Mar 2018 #7
I was 12 when Nixon resigned and I felt sorry for him BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #8
Thats a line I sorta use when some f$&#stick like Billy Graham eats dirt Gabi Hayes Mar 2018 #13
Prevalence of personality disorders ALONE among Hortensis Mar 2018 #9
not feelin it... A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2018 #10
Mentally challenged SE Cupp should recognize the face of not okay every day when she puts on Gabi Hayes Mar 2018 #11
Bipolar Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #12
Maybe he's not mentally ill. Maybe he's very sane and he's losing his shit because he finally Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #14
Whatever. I might have empathy if he didn't help elect America's dumbest criminal president. D23MIURG23 Mar 2018 #15
Extreme stress prompts extreme behaviour. meadowlander Mar 2018 #17
I don't think it's funny, but no sympathy. He chose his path. CakeGrrl Mar 2018 #19

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
1. He was involved in a cult to destroy my country
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:06 PM
Mar 2018

I'll reserve my sympathy for dreamers, uninsured, people on food stamps and elderly freezing to death in states where his buddy proposes severe cuts to heating subsidies.

ESAD

Leith

(7,813 posts)
16. We Can Also Reserve Our Sympathy for Someone Who...
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:39 AM
Mar 2018

does not love and defend a sewer rat like Roger Stone.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
3. Then maybe his LAWYER needs to ask for a competence hearing?
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:10 PM
Mar 2018

Not a bunch of laypersons?

MAYBE he's lost his mind. MAYBE he's on drugs. MAYBE he's just a complete asshole. Some measured compassionate consideration maybe in order, however, let's not be so quick to just diagnose.

BTW, do we extend the same courtesy to everyone, including Donald Trump who reportedly goes off the rails pretty much daily? Or just this guy?

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
8. I was 12 when Nixon resigned and I felt sorry for him
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:37 PM
Mar 2018

since he cried on TV and it was sad to me. My parents told me, "You would feel sorry for Hitler". They STILL remind me of this in fact. Today I felt sorry for Nunberg for about 10 seconds when Joan Walsh commented to Erin Burnett (CNN) that someone close to him should stop him and help him since he obviously is in bad shape. Ari Melber and a lawyer/guest tried to talk to him with some compassion for the same reason. I guess I am getting less sympathetic than I was when I was 12.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. Thats a line I sorta use when some f$&#stick like Billy Graham eats dirt
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:18 PM
Mar 2018

Where were the bin Laden euologists when he caught one with his mouth?

Why does a monster become less of one when he croaks?

Similarly, I have no sympathy for a racist creep like Nunboy, who prostituted himself at the feet of the reigning world’s worst human for over 4 yrs......howEVER......

It was sad to see any human being (Nunberg barely achieving said status) unravel like that, but BOY howdy, am I hoping to see the day when Fatso losesit in some very public manner

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Prevalence of personality disorders ALONE among
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:00 PM
Mar 2018

Americans has been measured at 9.1%. That's 1 out of every 11 people we've ever known. The various obsessive types, the suspicious schizoid types, the lying, manipulative, troublemaking types. Basically, the sort people always talk about, wondering what on earth made them "behave that way."

That's a lot of people. Plus, a lot more people merely display strong traits of without being severe enough to be diagnosable, and there are, of course, other mental disorders.

Don't know how many here have noticed it, but anyone who's aware of personality and other disorders short of insanity would have trouble NOT suspecting a significantly higher prevalence among the kind of people Republicans have been finding on their ballots or have been appointed to office these days, among the Republican candidates for president in 2016 (Trump was not the only strange person on that stage), and of course in the Trump campaign and administration.

This guy may have been drunk, he may have been coked up today, but it also seems likely there's something else wrong with him. If he had a personality disorder, it'd be from the same large cluster of possible traits that Trump and Gingrich (the ex-speaker-turned-fake-cancer-cure-grifter) probably fall into. Constant craving for attention, narcissism, histrionic behaviors, and lack of conscience are also possible traits in that cluster.

Johnny2X2X

(19,086 posts)
12. Bipolar
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:14 PM
Mar 2018

He said he was taking meds for depression. His behavior and mannerisms reminded me of the bipolar people I have in my life. He’s not making rational decisions right now. He’s going to crash soon though and really need help then.

Thy being said, this guy participated willingly in the overthrow of our Democracy.

Baitball Blogger

(46,752 posts)
14. Maybe he's not mentally ill. Maybe he's very sane and he's losing his shit because he finally
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:22 PM
Mar 2018

understands how much trouble he's in.

But I get it. He's white and everyone is going to assume that he's mentally ill, rather than recognize that he's dealing with enormous pressure and he's afraid. That's a normal reaction, but not one that many white, privileged people in power have ever had to face.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
15. Whatever. I might have empathy if he didn't help elect America's dumbest criminal president.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:10 AM
Mar 2018

Until that Putin fellating cheeto gets a jumpsuit to match his skin tone I'll only have schadenfreude. Enjoy explaining your on-the-air cocaine binge to Mueller and the grand jury, numbnuts. Don't let the cell door hit you in the ass.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
17. Extreme stress prompts extreme behaviour.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:49 AM
Mar 2018

You can't divorce that behaviour from the context of the thing causing the stress.

I feel sorry for the guys in The Tell-Tale Heart and Crime and Punishment but that doesn't mean they're not murderers who should go to prison for a long, long time.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
19. I don't think it's funny, but no sympathy. He chose his path.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:20 AM
Mar 2018

My sympathy is for the people who are suffering due to the policies of this criminal, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, nativist administration.

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